UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Izual_Rebirth]

UEFA and integrity in the same sentence.... they have none. Absolutely none. It’s an organisation that’s supposed to oversee European wide football but it’s actually the play thing of 14 clubs who instruct it to do whatever is in their small minded and greedy self interests.

What are the 14 clubs?

 

[Ederson's smiley tattoo]

Those aren't the ones that can sit on the Panel for football cases, there's a separate list of arbitrators for football cases that runs to 104 people.

https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/list-of-arbitrators-football-list.html

We got our boy,

Mr Mohamed Al Mehairi (1960)
Attorney-at-law (United Arab Emirates)

 

[Ric]

That say’s we’re 100% innocent and I don’t think we are.

City’s arguments seem to be on due process and on the evidence of which UEFA are using to prove City’s guilt.

Yes, I think it’s probably a bit fanciful, and perhaps not really helpful, to think that we’re completely innocent here. There has undoubtedly been some creative accounting going on, but then find me a major corporation that doesn’t. Google, Amazon, Manchester fucking United, they’re all at it. It’s just absurd that we operate in perhaps the only industry in the world where it’s deemed more of a crime to invest in your company, rather than avoiding paying tax out of it. Mad world.

 

[nmc]

Messages were sent out - in some cases as soon as half an hour after the news - requesting players’ attend the meeting on Saturday lunchtime. Soriano wanted to brief them on the club’s plans following Uefa’s decision to ban the club from European competition. [
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also being reported the deadline for the apeal is 10 days,seems very short to me

That’ll just be a notification of intention to appeal.

 

[bluemoon32]

I keep getting this repeating image in my head.
Remember that City fan who when fans were being interviewed after we won the title at Brighton shouted "fcuk the Scouse cnuts".
Well, i have this image of Uefa and the Sheik sitting in a room laughing and making up, everyones in a good jovial mood as our FFP problems have been sorted and we're all friends again and then that very same City fan walks past with a giant inflatable cock shouting " fcuk the UEFA cnuts"

 

[Silva2021]

We don't know what City have, we only went for the process because thats all we could challenge at that time. I doubt we are sleepwalking into a disaster, we will have weighed all pro's and con's.

You didn't answer my question btw ;}

I’m with you 100% if you where innocent you wouldn’t take the pinch (that’s still not to say a deal could be the sensible option), but then by that logic we must have been guilty the first time.

 

[Silva2021]

I agree. I think we've cooked the books to a degree.
I think ffp is absolute nonsense, I think fifa, uefa they are all corrupt but I don't expect cas to overturn the decision. I think this could be a long road in which we could potentially come out of it looking even worse.

This, VAR, fifa, uefa... It's really killed my love for football. What kind of organisation prohibits investment in favour of debt.

My view exactly on all the above!!

 

[nmc]

If we have the evidence, won't we have already presented it to UEFA? In which case they have either ignored it or don't believe it. Or has the punishment been handed down without us having the opportunity to present our defence?

After the fiasco of the last process and UEFA examining our books and giving us the okay to them suddenly changing the rules to catch us - I think the club has no faith in UEFA or their dodgy processes. The news this time that we were escaping a ban has clearly resulted in some of our enemies having a tantrum and demanding this heavy punishment. I honestly think City have given UEFA nothing and are waiting for the CAS (and hopefully other hearings re compensation) to unleash what they have and put a death nail into that corrupt dodgy organisation.

 

[oakiecokie]

Hit it with a claw hammer, that will wake the fucker up.

Trust me I'm a Dr.

Thanks for the free consultation Doctor.Will it hurt or sting a little and would consider taking aspirin for any slight discomfort ?

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I agree. I think we've cooked the books to a degree.
I think ffp is absolute nonsense, I think fifa, uefa they are all corrupt but I don't expect cas to overturn the decision. I think this could be a long road in which we could potentially come out of it looking even worse.

This, VAR, fifa, uefa... It's really killed my love for football. What kind of organisation prohibits investment in favour of debt.

Unless they have a money trail from Mansours bank accounts to City, what have they got some stolen email's?

A look at our sponsers books will no doubt show they paid the sponsorships, all they have is who hrh is? And thats not Mansour according to people who know about AD etiquette and how individuals are referred to, even if it is we can dispute it.

Relax mate.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

CAS members

Who we picking, who UEFA picking & CANo. Name Country
1. Abdullah Al Hayyan

Kuwait
2. Tjasa Andrée-Prosenc

Slovenia
3. Patrick Baumann Switzerland
4. Scott Blackmun

United States
5. Alexandra Brilliantova

Russia
6. Miguel Cardenal Carro

Spain
7. John D. Coates

Australia
8. Moya Dodd

Australia
9. Nabil Elaraby

Egypt
10. Ivo Eusebio

Switzerland
11. Michael Lenard

United States
12. Carole Malinvaud

France
13. Yvonne Mokgoro

South Africa
14. Ellen Gracie Northfleet

Brazil
15. Göran Petersson

Sweden
16. Dick Pound

Canada
17. Corinne Schmidhauser

Switzerland
18. Tricia C.M. Smith

Canada
19. Wilhelmina Thomassen

Netherlands
20. Hanqin Xue

China
21. Matthieu Reeb

Switzerland
22. Meles Zenawi Ethiopia

Dick pound sounds like a porn star :+)

 

[oakiecokie]

You dirty old cnut!!







So do I.:-)

I`d be made up just to find a dirty old cnut !!

 

[davek1808]

After the fiasco of the last process and UEFA examining our books and giving us the okay to them suddenly changing the rules to catch us - I think the club has no faith in UEFA or their dodgy processes. The news this time that we were escaping a ban has clearly resulted in some of our enemies having a tantrum and demanding this heavy punishment. I honestly think City have given UEFA nothing and are waiting for the CAS (and hopefully other hearings re compensation) to unleash what they have and put a death nail into that corrupt dodgy organisation.

Well sooner or later someone was going to take down this corrupt shit stain of an organisation, it may as well be US.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Thanks for the free consultation Doctor.Will it hurt or sting a little and would consider taking aspirin for any slight discomfort ?

All the above, but you have my guarantee it will swell up lol.

 

[Gordyola]

Hello Sid.
My understanding from a podcast I've just listened to is as follows:
It seems that the ruling on the details of the judgement and our defence is down to the CAS, and CAS alone and there is no further appeal beyond CAS ( fits in with an earlier posting by @Tricky_Trev ).
However as I understood it if City are unhappy with result of the CAS appeal ruling they could ( under the 'public policy' grounds) appeal to the Swiss Federal Court that FFP is illegal in which case the UEFA ruling against City would become null and void.
This seems to fit in with City's pronouncements that we are going to fight this all way, because if the appeal process ended with CAS then City would not be able to pursue matters further.
One other thing - the lawyer on the podcast reckoned it could be about 15 months before the result of the CAS appeal was known.
As I say I'm not a lawyer, this is my understanding.
Hopefully all will become clear in the coming days.

What podcast is this info from?

 

[abu13]

We got our boy,

Mr Mohamed Al Mehairi (1960)
Attorney-at-law (United Arab Emirates)

And just watch him be the only Rag in the U.A.E

 

[oakiecokie]

All the above, but you have my guarantee it will swell up lol.

Might be worth the risk.

 

[Silva2021]

Yes, I think it’s probably a bit fanciful, and perhaps not really helpful, to think that we’re completely innocent here. There has undoubtedly been some creative accounting going on, but then find me a major corporation that doesn’t. Google, Amazon, Manchester fucking United, they’re all at it. It’s just absurd that we operate in perhaps the only industry in the world where it’s deemed more of a crime to invest in your company, rather than avoiding paying tax out of it. Mad world.

Spot on Ric,

We have done something here that perhaps we should not, which is where my initial conversation on if true the option of a slap on the wrist could have been the sensible one.

You are correct and truth of the matter is United might have done something wrong or not, it seems accepted they can hide there accounts. Still think those PIK loans the Glazers had one minute and then where suddenly paid of with no explanation happened at a very similar time to the restructure. If are accounts where hidden in such away I’m sure it would be seen very differently.

I have no issue with the club being creative and as you say it is common place the companies to do this.

Not sure how it will play out, but our season might end up more interesting off the field then it is on it.

 

[Gordyola]

If we have the evidence, won't we have already presented it to UEFA? In which case they have either ignored it or don't believe it. Or has the punishment been handed down without us having the opportunity to present our defence?

The club said in a statement, when it was passed from the investigative chamber to the adjudication chamber, in huge hast due to the pending 5year deadline expiring, that the investigative chamber had not considered the club’s 200page document. It was at this point after the NY Times article that the club accused UEFA of breaking the strict confidentiality agreement, in particular the chief investigator Leterme

 

[domalino]

Dick pound sounds like a porn star :+)

He's the only name I recognise on the list. He was the guy who went after Lance Armstrong at WADA.