CAS isnt the final word, we can take it further than them if they also say we are guilty... correct me if im wrong about that guys.Except CAS is not a court of law, it’s a sports tribunal that usually rules on doping cases.
I worry how impartial they will be in this case.
Yes, I think it’s probably a bit fanciful, and perhaps not really helpful, to think that we’re completely innocent here. There has undoubtedly been some creative accounting going on, but then find me a major corporation that doesn’t. Google, Amazon, Manchester fucking United, they’re all at it. It’s just absurd that we operate in perhaps the only industry in the world where it’s deemed more of a crime to invest in your company, rather than avoiding paying tax out of it. Mad world.
The high court it goes too. Listen we know how this will play out. I would hazard a guess that uefa hope CAS will reduce the ban to 1 year and reduce the fine in the hope that we accept a lesser charge....
But this means we accept guilt. Our owners have persisted we are not guilty and have been hung out to dry
Because the media are a bunch of absolute twats?CAS isnt the final word, we can take it further than them if they also say we are guilty... correct me if im wrong about that guys.
Also correct me in presuming if we do appeal and it goes to CAS then wont we technically still be in the Champs league next season untill a decision is made? If thats the case then why is there so much media talk about 5th place getting a champs league spot next season? Because surely they know we are appealing???
Let’s all hope so.
I’m giving it to some wankers if that happens :-)
So where does 'irrefutable evidence' and 'no wrong doing' sit in that equation then ?
CAS isnt the final word, we can take it further than them if they also say we are guilty... correct me if im wrong about that guys.
Also correct me in presuming if we do appeal and it goes to CAS then wont we technically still be in the Champs league next season untill a decision is made? If thats the case then why is there so much media talk about 5th place getting a champs league spot next season? Because surely they know we are appealing???
I may be wrong but I dont think CAS are in the business of compromising? They will say we are right or UEFA.
Totally impartial governed by Swiss law abiding to international standards with a pool of eminent lawyersExcept CAS is not a court of law, it’s a sports tribunal that usually rules on doping cases.
I worry how impartial they will be in this case.
This man is on the UEFA Executive Committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasser_Al-Khelaifi#Government_of_Qatar
Yet Soriano was blocked from being appointed. Given that UAE and Qatar do not get on is it too far-fetched to suggest there may be some high-level politics at play here? UEFA (along with FIFA) seem to have made their bed with the Qataris. Looks set for a titanic legal clash given the interests on our side (Chinese and US investment) I hope we drag them through the mud and fully expose the blatant protection racket that is FFP.
Totally impartial governed by Swiss law abiding to international standards with a pool of eminent lawyers
They do much more than doping
The panel of three one chosen by each side the other independent from a pool
I wonder how long before something leaks out. I must say Pep has looked super relaxed over the the last week. He has probably seen our dossier of evidence. The more I think about it the more I believe we must have a smoking gun. The public statements we have made would have been double checked by our lawyers. We wouldn't have gone in so strong unless we had powerful evidence.
This whole saga, including the Pinto hacking and Liverpool FCs hacking would make a great movie...but no one would believe the plot. You could throw in a bit of Pep's pals being locked up in Barcelona and the yellow ribbon protest for the European market!
How we are getting such a ban and PSG are not is a clear sign of how corrupt the whole process is.
Ok, here goes:I think we have 100% broken the spirit of the law, and ADUG putting money through Etihad/Etisalat so they can afford to sponsor us is very clearly not what anyone thought of as Financial Fair Play. Frankly I don't give a shit about that, professional football allowed owners to invest for 130 years before Mansour arrived, and it will be allowed again when FFP is gone in <10 years.
However I still think the club could have operated within the rules as the are written and thus be "innocent" to that extent.
Also I think it's entirely possible we're guilty but UEFA can't touch us because of some procedural thing like the illegally gained emails being the only evidence or them being outside the 5 year window or the settlement agreement meaning they can't reprosecute.
I'm not convinced though...the club has gotten things wrong before and if I'm doubting them, then its no wonder no one outside the City fanbase is really thinking we have a case.
As the day has gone on, I've been more and more convinced that the club needs to make some sort of proper, detailed public statement, because staying silent for months (outside the aggressive reaction statement) is going to leave fans isolated and the media with nothing but the opposing view to air.
One thing that bugs me about this, I don’t buy the argument that UEFA know they will fail.
They are not morons, failure will be a PR disaster for them, yet presumably their lawyers have told them to go ahead with this ban.
They must think they can win.
I see they’ve wheeled out a big gun in Mark Ogden for our obituary. And by big gun, I mean massive weapon.