UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[chaddblue]

The CAS statement today says we are banned for the next two seasons “for which we qualify”

First I’ve heard of this? I thought we were specifically banned for the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons?

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Had to laugh at the suggestion FFP for legal teams. We would end up with Hot Air and Bluster. Solictors, Co. from a shady office in Cheetham Hill or somewhere.

Yes, this whole vlog is feeble in the extreme. It proceeds from the starting point that we only have the most hazy idea of what the charge so let's see what your defence may be. Oh it's got to be on a technicality. Our "world superstar legal team" may have a clearer view than our American friend and they may have taken notice of Ferran's approach that the club must prove that the accusations are simply not true.

I have been told Pep has said he has seen the proof that City are innocent and he is convinced by it. Can anyone confirm he has made this comment?

 

[meltonblue]

The CAS statement today says we are banned for the next two seasons “for which we qualify”

First I’ve heard of this? I thought we were specifically banned for the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons?

I noticed that too.

 

[swinton blue]

The CAS statement today says we are banned for the next two seasons “for which we qualify”

First I’ve heard of this? I thought we were specifically banned for the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons?

In other words if we get found guilty the prem league will dock us points this year so we dont qualify so the ban going on 3 years

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Some thick scouse twat at it on that thread:

Fancy expecting a dipper to " do research " ?

The cnuts think they know everything there is to to know ...........................about absolutely everything !

 

[SWP's back]

Yes, this whole vlog is feeble in the extreme. It proceeds from the starting point that we only have the most hazy idea of what the charge so let's see what your defence may be. Oh it's got to be on a technicality. Our "world superstar legal team" may have a clearer view than our American friend and they may have taken notice of Ferran's approach that the club must prove that the accusations are simply not true.

I have been told Pep has said he has seen the proof that City are innocent and he is convinced by it. Can anyone confirm he has made this comment?

Yesterday in his press conference yes.

 

[George Hannah]

City were always going to fail in 2014. They hoped to be close enough to not get a heavy sanction.
The goalpost/toolkit move meant City missed by a lot more. I'm not sure why it's relevant to the current case though.

That is just outrageous rubbish. We were always going to be inside FFP limits until UEFA changed the rules in a new toolkit after our accounts were submitted and they couldn't be changed. If you can't see why that's relevant as the context for our current appeal you are a bonehead.
Ask Darren Fletcher - even he knows that.

 

[inchy14]

I thought that was the IC not the AC

I can accept that was the case in respect of the Invetsigatory Chamber whose spokesman seemed to have pre-judged the matter before he had even received City's evidence but the Adjudicatory Chamber. I cannot believe that they did not consider City's argument.

I assume because the IC hadn't accepted it the AC didn't then see it as their remit is to just award the punishment, i may be wrong here was just my assumption.

 

[chaddblue]

In other words if we get found guilty the prem league will dock us points this year so we dont qualify so the ban going on 3 years

Extra incentive to win on Sunday so we’ve got that European qualification in our back pocket

 

[George Hannah]

Sky report has just renamed the Adjudicatory Chamber as the "Independent" Chamber implying we are appealing against an independent sanction. Scum infested media wherever you look - utterly disgusting propaganda.

 

[SidJames]

In other words if we get found guilty the prem league will dock us points this year so we dont qualify so the ban going on 3 years

And Liverpool got a 5 year Ban for killing 39 Italians.

These bastards hate us.

Like the Mafia.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Im not sure it’ll play out in the confines of the CAS case but in an wider proceedings I’m sure City will try to say that UEFA has executed it’s governance ‘perversely’ in order to exclude some clubs from the top table. UEFA cannot simply take instructions from the G14 clubs to design a set of rules to exclude us and when they don’t look like working - update them at the last minute after we’ve submitted our accounts.

Indeed. Most of the coverage in the media is an evidence free zone apart from the willingness to consider the emails with the same respect as reserved for evidence brought down Mount Sinai by Moses. Well, here we have hard evidence from the key period in the case that UEFA acted with bad faith which amounts to a form of entrapment. It also shows City's good faith and determination to operate within the framework of FFP. A year later UEFA changed its own rules to ensure that new owners did not have to comply as quickly as City's were forced to. Then Juventus, who do not have new owners, were allowed to increase the value of a sponsorship deal with Jeep which had two years to run to over twice its original value. Jeep is owned by Fiat, which is the Agnelli's. No investigation, no concern. Consistency? Impartiality? Justice?

 

[Marvin]

The CAS statement today says we are banned for the next two seasons “for which we qualify”

First I’ve heard of this? I thought we were specifically banned for the 20/21 and 21/22 seasons?

The UEFA statement says, "The Adjudicatory Chamber has imposed disciplinary measures on Manchester City Football Club directing that it shall be excluded from participation in UEFA club competitions in the next two seasons (ie. the 2020/21 and 2021/22 seasons) and pay a fine of € 30 million."

 

[domalino]

Should get the verdict just before the end of the season, right in time for a CL final if we get there.

 

[remember arthur mann]

That is just outrageous rubbish. We were always going to be inside FFP limits until UEFA changed the rules in a new toolkit after our accounts were submitted and they couldn't be changed. If you can't see why that's relevant as the context for our current appeal you are a bonehead.
Ask Darren Fletcher - even he knows that.

So you think he's a Million Miles Away ?!

 

[chaddblue]

The UEFA statement says, "The Adjudicatory Chamber has imposed disciplinary measures on Manchester City Football Club directing that it shall be excluded from participation in UEFA club competitions in the next two seasons (ie. the 2020/21 and 2021/22 seasons) and pay a fine of € 30 million."

Yeah that’s what I thought, but the CAS statement says different. God knows which is correct?

 

[Marvin]

Last time I think CAS said no further comments would be issued until an announcement was made.This time they don't say much at all.

Big question is next season. Are they going to fast-track it so it's heard before then, or if not are they going to set aside the sanction until the conclusion?

 

[SidJames]

Laughable how they made it in such a way to help the Rags qualify for the Champions League this Season.

If the Rags finish 25 points behind in 5th

You can guarantee there will be a retrospective 30 point deduction by the Premier League this Season.

Meaning Rags automatically qualify for the Champions League .

Meaning we would not even start our ban until we actually qualify next season.

The Ban could go on for a few years if we fail to qualify.

Horrible,nasty,malicious bastards.

Apologies for the language.

Right now i am apoplectic with rage.

Injustice.

 

[George Hannah]

Yeah that’s what I thought, but the CAS statement says different. God knows which is correct?

link? this is what I can find


A Cas statement read: “The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) has registered an appeal filed by Manchester City football club against the Union of European Football Associations (Uefa).

“The appeal is directed against the decision of the adjudicatory chamber of the UEFA Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) dated 14 February 2020 in which Manchester City was deemed to have contravened UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations and sanctioned with exclusion from the next two seasons of UEFA club competitions for which the club would qualify and ordered to pay a fine of €30 million.


“Generally speaking, Cas appeal arbitration procedures involve an exchange of written submissions between the parties while a panel of Cas arbitrators is being convened. Once the panel has been formally constituted it issues procedural directions, including, inter alia, with respect to the holding of a hearing. Following the hearing, the panel deliberates and then issues its decision in the form of an arbitral award.

“It is not possible to indicate at this time when a final award in this matter will be issued,” it added.

Following Uefa’s announcement of the two-year ban and fine earlier this month, City said they would launch an appeal to Cas “at the earliest opportunity”.

“The club has always anticipated the ultimate need to seek out an independent body and process to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence in support of its position,” a club statement read.

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City failed in an attempt to stop Uefa’s investigation at Cas in November, arguing that the governing body did not have the authority to bring a case against them.


Cas ruled that City’s appeal was “inadmissible” but “not without merit” and described City’s suggestion that Uefa officials leaked details of their investigation to the media as “worrisome”.

If City's appeal fails at Cas, the club is likely to take their case to the civil courts. The Swiss Federal Supreme Court has jurisdiction over Uefa and could overturn the ban and fine.

Uefa launched their investigation into City following the publication of leaked emails which appeared to show that the club inflated sponsorship deals in order to comply with FFP.

City return to the Champions League on Wednesday night in a last-16 first leg against Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu.

 

[Rolee]

Laughable how they made it in such a way to help the Rags qualify for the Champions League this Season.

If the Rags finish 25 points behind in 5th

You can guarantee there will be a retrospective 30 point deduction by the Premier League this Season.

Meaning Rags automatically qualify for the Champions League .

Meaning we would not even start our ban until we actually qualify next season.

The Ban could go on for a few years if we fail to qualify.

Horrible,nasty,malicious bastards.

Apologies for the language.

Right now i am apoplectic with rage.

Injustice.

Win on Sunday and we've qualified for a UEFA competition next season.