COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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The irony is, that bell curve the CMO presented yesterday as his justification for carrying on as normal and not banning mass gatherings, is the exact same bell curve that Barack Obama tweeted last night to JUSTIFY the banning of mass gatherings.

As I said earlier, their only justification for not implementing a lock down right now is that they've read a behavioural science report that says if you isolate people too early, they'll get bored. That's not good enough for me.


I think they want as many people as possible to get it, and thus get immunity, whilst protecting the old. They want to manage the epidemic. They don't think it's possible to wipe it out
 
I think they want as many people as possible to get it, and thus get immunity, whilst protecting the old. They want to manage the epidemic. They don't think it's possible to wipe it out
100%. I wonder if they're encouraging their own families to be the guinea pigs?
 
many other countries have stopped a majority of testing. only testing those who are hospitalised. is this what the UK are doing now?
 
The irony is, that bell curve the CMO presented yesterday as his justification for carrying on as normal and not banning mass gatherings, is the exact same bell curve that Barack Obama tweeted last night to JUSTIFY the banning of mass gatherings.

As I said earlier, their only justification for not implementing a lock down right now is that they've read a behavioural science report that says if you isolate people too early, they'll get bored. That's not good enough for me.


Nor me.
Behavioural scientists? A joke that they can call themselves scientists.

As these are unprecedented times it is impossible to translate previous patterns of lab mice behaviour on what nations of panicked, resourceful and resolute people will do.
 
The irony is, that bell curve the CMO presented yesterday as his justification for carrying on as normal and not banning mass gatherings, is the exact same bell curve that Barack Obama tweeted last night to JUSTIFY the banning of mass gatherings.

As I said earlier, their only justification for not implementing a lock down right now is that they've read a behavioural science report that says if you isolate people too early, they'll get bored. That's not good enough for me.


Indeed it is, same as the masterfully artistic version (ha!) of the cases/time explanation graph I created and posted more than a week ago. There have been many others posted since.

This is not a new concept and not one our or the US government (which I am currently, unfortunately under) should be struggling with.
 
This is going to have far reaching consequences for the nature of healthcare in our country I think. Consequences for the next 50 years.

The more left wing supporters will use the inevitable "problems" as a platform to claim that they were right all along and that NHS has been chronically and systematically underfunded for a decade or more and that it needs a step chance in investment levels. And the more right wing will suggest that the nature of one big state-run monolithic organisation is unfit for purpose and needs wholesale restructuring and much greater involvement from the private sector.

Any which way, I think the NHS is going to be very different in years to come, as a result of what's about to happen.

The lack of news about increased capacity in hospitals and other sites is worrying. They are either doing little or not telling anyone. Can’t see it being the second one.
 
798 confirmed,no more testing if i heard sky right just then
A rise of 200 ish? Seems to be increasing by around 35% each day? So my guess is an increase of almost 280 tomorrow and passing 1,000 in total. Will be roughly 5k next weekend
 
Jesus Christ I hope you heard wrong. That would be roughly a trebling of our daily new cases in 2 days if true.

Chippy calm down - thousands have it. The government will manage this far better than italy who cant cope - delaying the peak will allow our NHS to cope better. We have the best scientists in the world.
 
Those are rhetorical questions I know, but it's actually a very swiftly-applied and straightforward process.


Aaand strike three for Godwin's law! We're on a roll here ladies and gents.


Or at least become so worried by the real risks posed by egoistical actions, that the ones not respecting the community laws risk lynching.


To be fair uffa you may hold up the government of the UK as being a descent and relatively stable example compared to some of those suffered by other European countries have had to endure. Do not however for one moment the depths those in power of this great nation have been prepared to stoop from time to time, even over the last few decades.
 
798 positive in 32771 tests.

Our total testing/million population is actually in the top half dozen or so of big countries (S Korea and Italy, plus Austria/Switzerland are above).
 
Jesus Christ I hope you heard wrong. That would be roughly a trebling of our daily new cases in 2 days if true.
Why you can trust Sky News
The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK has reached 798 - an increase of 208 over the last 24 hours.

According to the Department of Health, as of 9am on Friday a total of 32,771 people have been tested for COVID-19, with 31,973 found not to have the disease.


Ten patients who have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK have died.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-coronavirus-cases-reach-798-up-208-in-last-24-hours-11957035
 
many other countries have stopped a majority of testing. only testing those who are hospitalised. is this what the UK are doing now?

Who will do the testing? Getting tested is as much on those who think they are infected to actually go and do it. Yet the advice is not to because it will overload the health system.

The government want this to pass through the population, the majority will pass it off no problem, but this strategy obviously skews the figures in that many more are infected than is being reported.

The death rate is key for this government. If it’s as low as they anticipate and 90% of that is the elderly and those with health issues already, they won’t give 2 fucks.
 
This whole thing is fucking exhausting. I work in telecoms and i have wall 2 wall meetings for the foreseeable future in providing emergency at home solutions to large corporations that were too slow to plan ahead.
 
Who will do the testing? Getting tested is as much on those who think they are infected to actually go and do it. Yet the advice is not to because it will overload the health system.

The government want this to pass through the population, the majority will pass it off no problem, but this strategy obviously skews the figures in that many more are infected than is being reported.

The death rate is key for this government. If it’s as low as they anticipate and 90% of that is the elderly and those with health issues already, they won’t give 2 fucks.

well the advice is if you think you have it, self isolate. if you need hospital treatment then you need it. cant fathom it myself, will just lock myself int he basement
 
I think they want as many people as possible to get it, and thus get immunity, whilst protecting the old. They want to manage the epidemic. They don't think it's possible to wipe it out
At this point, it isn’t. The fears of many health officials are likely to be realised and COVID-19 is likely to become endemic.

But this misapplication of the concept of herd immunity is farcical. It does not work the way they are describing (at least, not in the context of their “plan”).

And, once more, it is unlikely to “push the peak” at all. If anything, it’s more likely to hasten the peak.

What private industry is doing now, in lieu of any real government action, may mitigate that surge of infections that could completely overwhelm the healthcare system (which extends beyond NHS), but that is not because of the government’s swift and prudent response.

But you know they’ll take credit for any and all victories, regardless if they actually created conditions to make those victories more difficult and/or less likely.
 
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