COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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No one has fucking said Johnson is making it up. Seriously, stop getting bent out of shape because some people are being mean to Boris.
Some random knobheads on twitter seem to think they know better than the best scientific and mathematical brains in the country. What if the government strategy is correct and it’s being undermined?
 
That is the bit where I went cold on the Govt strategy. Either produce data as to how people attending the event via coach, train, bus and mingling and mixing on concourses and in bars, pubs before and after or jumping and yelling over each other in celebration equates to a slim risk then I’m calling this a lie.

And if it so fucking slim then why ban them next week? Risk can’t have changed so what is the difference?
They didn't address people getting to events and everything else that goes with it and nobody in the media asked the question,it was such a bollocks arguement to just use the 90 mins we are at football for example,i can't believe any sensible person brought their stance on it
 
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maybe we should take a vote...

Choose your floor, Mr Cummings will be there check your temperature as you step out

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Here's a thread for those of you who think British policy is being made up by Johnson and Cummings


That is a great thread for background regarding inputs to decision making and planning — I had been looking at the NIHR modelling assessment recently (as it was one of the more recent ones I could find; 2017).

I would obviously love if the government and/or advisory groups opened up some or all of the input models for outside review, especially for those of us with backgrounds in data science, but I understand some of the concerns with doing that. It is difficult to assess the current level of confidence in their modelling and the risk threshold that has been established without that, though.
 
Some random knobheads on twitter seem to think they know better than the best scientific and mathematical brains in the country. What if the government strategy is correct and it’s being undermined?

Ok. On Thursday the Premier League dutifully followed Govt strategy and announced games would go ahead as normal. 45 minutes later Arteta was tested positive. Following morning all games postponed until April. The general UK population has adopted social distancing, UK businesses are introducing working from home and we are stockpiling bog roll.

If the Govt is being undermined it’s because we decided, and by we I mean people, industry etc, not to listen. Random knobheads on Twitter are the least of its problems.
 
Trump giving a PC. Apparently they are doing a great job compared to what is going on the rest of the world. There is an obvious point which he is missing/ignoring
 
Yeah it's not just random nobheads who have questions.

Letter in today's edition of The Times;

'Sir,

Our country's public health response to Covid-19 is demonstrably different from most other countries' responses globally and in Europe.

As the Government has outlined, it is imperative to delay and 'flatten' the epidemic curve to ensure the NHS can cope. This is particularly essential for the UK, which (according to OECD data) has 2.5 hospital beds per 1,000 population, behind Italy (3.2), France (6.0) and the US (2.8).

There is also no clear indication that the UK's response is being informed by experiences of other countries in containing the spread of Covid-19.

For the above reasons, we request that the government urgently and openly share the scientific evidence, data and models it is using to inform its decisions on the Covid-19 public health interventions in the UK. This transparency is essential to retain the scientific community, healthcare community, and the public's understanding, co-operation, and trust.

Dr Richard Horton, editor-in-cheif, The Lancet
Dr Nisreen Alwan; associate professor in public health, University of Southampton
Dr Miriam Orcutt, senior research fellow, Institute for Global Health, UCL
Dr Anne Wilson, lecturer in epidemiology, Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine,
Dr Peter Tennant, university academic fellow in health data science, University of Leeds,
Devi Shridhar, professor of global public health, University of Edinburgh.'
 
Interesting Skynews headline - 'Death Toll Doubles' - that follows a rise of 10 on the current 11, a total of 21 - not 22.
Great spot George. I’d been struggling with doubling 11 for a while so was very happy to see your post. I checked it with a calculator then phoned a friend to verify and you’re quite right.
 
Some random knobheads on twitter seem to think they know better than the best scientific and mathematical brains in the country. What if the government strategy is correct and it’s being undermined?
To be fair, I am not sure a former WHO director meets the definition of random knobhead on twitter, but I take your point for many others on the platform.

There are many other experts in the world that are criticising the government’s announced strategy, though.
 
That didn't take long. Congratulating himself on the 'record' stock market rise. Now suggesting that he might do a PC 5 times a day to boost the stock market - now banging on about successful proviate companies - finally, back onto the virus
 
I am struggling to understand how you can do a controlled spread of a virus where people can catch it by breathing in the air of an infected person. How long on the government's present strategy before the NHS gets overwhelmed? Surely not very and then what? Is that the time they then try to slow it down by locking the country down?
 
I am struggling to understand how you can do a controlled spread of a virus where people can catch it by breathing in the air of an infected person. How long on the government's present strategy before the NHS gets overwhelmed? Surely not very and then what? Is that the time they then try to slow it down by locking the country down?

Read the twitter link that Ric provided earlier on today, pretty much outlines the whole plan and when other measures will be implemented.
 
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