Democrat US Presidential Nominations

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Biden is absolutely destroying Bernie in Florida, a 50 point margin when you remove candidates who have dropped out of the race. He needs to drop out ASAP so we don't have to continue voting during a pandemic for no reason.



 
With all the huge voter discrepancy numbers being dodgy, equiptment not being used to reduce possibility of vote manipulation, supression, Tulsi Gabbard being blanked by the media etc it begs the question, what the heck? Running a test scenario? are they taking the mickey. Russians don't need to meddle in the elections, it seems the USA do a perfectly fine job of manipulating it themselves. It is a disgrace. No explanation for this that i can see besides rigging. If there are legitimate reasons for this then i can't think what they would be...



They give the excuse it is "test data" but it all seems bloody dodgy. The amount of dodgy stuff going in favour of Biden seems very suspect. The main bit for me is where the computers were not used Biden won them all. It could be just coincidence but there is certainly doubt to it all.

At the very best they need to redo these primary elections. Illinois voters saying how they have been turned away and such. It is at best very messy, at worst open to manipulation.
 
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TCIB said:
With all the huge voter discrepancy numbers being dodgy, equiptment not being used to reduce possibility of vote manipulation, supression, Tulsi Gabbard being blanked by the media etc it begs the question, what the heck? Running a test scenario? are they taking the mickey. Russians don't need to meddle in the elections, it seems the USA do a perfectly fine job of manipulating it themselves. It is a disgrace. No explanation for this that i can see besides rigging. If there are legitimate reasons for this then i can't think what they would be...



They give the excuse it is "test data" but it all seems bloody dodgy. The amount of dodgy stuff going in favour of Biden seems very suspect. The main bit for me is where the computers were not used Biden won them all. It could be just coincidence but there is certainly doubt to it all.
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This isn't a thing that's even remotely possible.

 
TCIB said:
Good old VOX...

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/15791744/russia-election-39-states-hack-putin-trump-sessions

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/30/21058609/2020-election-donald-trump-voter-fraud
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I can find you another source if you'd like, but I'm kind of figuring it wouldn't really matter at this point. Bottom line is there are multiple safeguards in place to prevent election fraud, including having observers in place from the campaigns. Also elections in this country are carried out at the local level and reported up, it's impossible to do what was suggested in your dumb conspiracy video.
 
cjn said:
I can find you another source if you'd like, but I'm kind of figuring it wouldn't really matter at this point. Bottom line is there are multiple safeguards in place to prevent election fraud, including having observers in place from the campaigns. Also elections in this country are carried out at the local level and reported up, it's impossible to do what was suggested in your dumb conspiracy video.
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Impossible? some would say such an assertion is "dumb". Not my fault you cite a VOX video which they immediatly flip flopped on the next year is it :-)

You can cite an actual credible source if you wish but the system is very much open to interference/manipulation. It is run by humans, we don't have a great track record on infallibility and total integrity/honesty.
 
Gaudion M said:
Was.

It's over for him now. He wont win this nomination and he is already too old so he wont be running next time.
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He's not dead!

So 'is' still works! Yes, it's probably over for him, but I think the push for a third party, which has been mulled over for some time, will start to take effect incorporating Progressive and Independent voters. Even at this point I'm sure a few Progressive candidates have dethroned Dem incumbents. I will have to check.

Interesting times ahead.
 
cjn said:
Biden isn't a great candidate, and he doesn't excite me or anything like that, but he's being being underrated by much of the conventional wisdom online. His age aside (and it's a big aside), he's exactly the type of standard, down the middle, Democrat that generally wins elections. This is a party that, keep in mind, only 46% of members self-identify as even being liberal (source). People are voting pragmatically and the overriding issue this election is simply removing Trump.

Bernie's entire theory of the case is being wrecked by shitty turnout anyway. His numbers across almost every type of voter, with the exception of Latinos, is flat to down since 2016, including with young voters, and theres not much evidence to suggest he could actually turn it around in the general as he's losing to Biden in the primary.

It's exactly the same situation as in the 2018 midterms. The left wing of the party absolutely insisted Democrats were making a catastrophic error by nominating moderates to contest swing districts as opposed to running an inspiring progressive agenda which could mobilize enough voters to win. As it turns out, nominating boring candidates actually was a pretty good strategy. Democrats flipped 40 seats, and moderates somehow accounted for 100 percent of the party’s House gains. Not a single progressive candidate actually won a Trump district. Our Revolution, Bernie's PAC which backed progressive candidates, went 0–22, and Justice Democrats and Brand New Congress, other progressive PACs, went went 0–16 and 0–6 respectively.
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Putting Biden up as a candidate is making it a referendum against Trump though, are you even aware of how dangerous that could be? You're right up against the reddit generation ffs.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Putting Biden up as a candidate is making it a referendum against Trump though, are you even aware of how dangerous that could be? You're right up against the reddit generation ffs.
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Dont do it mate,you've no idea of what you go against.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Yes, yes Bernie -- you go ahead and "assess." We're all waiting here with bated breath to hear your dramatic announcement of the result of your "assessment." Make sure to take your time now. You wouldn't want to make a mistake and drop out too early.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/ber...mpaign-after-joe-biden-2020-primary-wins.html
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As we all know he is done for this campaign, his fans need to hear it from him. What will be interesting is will he:

Denounc the conspiracy BS that surrounds his campaign?
Back Biden?
 
aguero93:20 said:
Putting Biden up as a candidate is making it a referendum against Trump though, are you even aware of how dangerous that could be? You're right up against the reddit generation ffs.
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The turn out numbers in the Dem primaries suggest that Biden will beat Trump by a very decent margin.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Putting Biden up as a candidate is making it a referendum against Trump though, are you even aware of how dangerous that could be? You're right up against the reddit generation ffs.
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I don't understand this post. Making Trump the issue was the best strategy before COVID-19 hit. Now it's the only strategy. All of the domestic economic accomplishments he was going to run on aren't just wavering, they are utterly collapsing -- we may very well be in the worst contraction since the Great Depression. He'll have his cult who though now increasingly jobless and penniless will still consider him the Messiah of America, but there simply aren't enough of them to overcome everyone else who didn't like him much before and now has seen quite clearly as they cower in fear in their own residences that he cannot lead nor galvanize the nation. They're going to lash out looking for someone to blame for this wreck and it's going to be the President, rightly or wrongly.
 
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