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Thanks for clarifying mate, that’s perfectly understandable.

I wasn’t suggesting they were hiding anything on purpose, it might just be a different way of giving a reason for the death.

I agree about the league table point, I think people are just looking to elsewhere to see what we can do better.

That's a key point.
We cannot do much better right now as we have what we have.

BUT, we are learning rapidly now on many levels, and I expect that we will be prepared much much better when the 2nd pandemic wave could arrive come winter.
Industries get reorganized to produce most needed things.
Our new personal behaviour will become natural in daily life.

A 2nd lockdown EDIT wouldn't shock us so much as we have learnt we did survive the 1st one.
And so on.

Maybe we even change our overall strategy and find a way to protect the vulnerable while keeping public life running and economy going, on a certain and "safe" level.

Cures will be at hand and vaccines will reach higher clinical study levels. There's hope.
 
Saw 2 druggies on Rochdale road harpurhey yesterday they were smacked out of their heads and had a operating mask on each. Had to laugh probably share needles have taken every drug known to mankind but didn’t want to catch the virus, one had his mask lobsided the other had made a hole in it so he could smoke haha
The irony being that these two fuckers will survive what ever is thrown at `em.
 
What puzzles me is that the powers that be must run simulations all the time because it's their job but nobody saw the possibility that panic buying bog rolls and pasta would be a thing, I mean what is the point of simulating epidemics if they can't even see that the basic structures are going to fail even before the epidemics take hold.
 
Tell her to **** off and come back with a real board game.

I mean, at least Carcassonne or Settlers, FFS.

Pandemic would be the most useful, though. ;-)
I can vouch for Carcassonne, but Pandemic hasn't come out of the box yet - recommend it would you? I've got a 10 & 14yr old wanting to play it
 
That's a key point.
We cannot do much better right now as we have what we have.

BUT, we are learning rapidly now on many levels, and I expect that we will be prepared much much better when the 2nd pandemic wave could arrive come winter.
Industries get reorganized to produce most needed things.
Our new personal behaviour will become natural in daily life.

A 2nd lockdown EDIT wouldn't shock us so much as we have learnt we did survive the 1st one.
And so on.

Maybe we even change our overall strategy and find a way to protect the vulnerable while keeping public life running and economy going, on a certain and "safe" level.

Cures will be at hand and vaccines will reach higher clinical study levels. There's hope.

This will be a part of life throughout 2020 I reckon.
 
I agree. Breast is best.


I breastfed Edison but when I got pregnant again when he was 6 months old my milk dried up completely by 7 months so I was forced to put him on formula. Because he was so premature he wouldn’t take the breast so I had to express all my milk by pump every 4 hours including in the night. I did this for 7 months and it was brutal .

many women can’t breastfeed and within 10 days of birth milk dries up and is gone forever . Sometimes you just don’t have that option
 
What puzzles me is that the powers that be must run simulations all the time because it's their job but nobody saw the possibility that panic buying bog rolls and pasta would be a thing, I mean what is the point of simulating epidemics if they can't even see that the basic structures are going to fail even before the epidemics take hold.
We’re a liberal democracy. Which means it’s not always possible for governments to make certain decisions until the public can see with their own eyes that they are necessary. Imagine if they’d imposed restrictions to stop panic buying a month ago. It would have caused outrage. And, because it would inevitably have leaked that those decisions were being considered, simply have brought the panic buying forward.
 
I agree Karen on the infection figures but I am not sure about @Chippy_boy 's claim that deaths in care homes will just be recorded as normal deaths. I am pretty sure that many care homes will be following end of life care protocols and be recording the cause of death, eg linking in with local GPs etc as appropriate. There may well come a time when services are so swamped that standard approaches go out of the window.
I was saying before that if a patient who is expected to die of a chest complaint,say COPD and they they start with a sore throat the day before then they are not going to test for the virus,the death will go down as COPD,i am not suggesting anyone telling lies but they won't be testing them post mortum
 
I breastfed Edison but when I got pregnant again when he was 6 months old my milk dried up completely by 7 months so I was forced to put him on formula. Because he was so premature he wouldn’t take the breast so I had to express all my milk by pump every 4 hours including in the night. I did this for 7 months and it was brutal .

many women can’t breastfeed and within 10 days of birth milk dries up and is gone forever . Sometimes you just don’t have that option
Sorry, my really bad attempt at humour. :-/

My mrs had real problems, so had to give up and we went Formula all the way. It chilled her out and it was absolutely fine.

All the best and stay safe.
 
The Bank of England has cut its base rate to a record low of 0.1% - warning the coronavirus pandemic will result in a "sharp and large" economic shock.

Its rate-setting committee, led by new governor Andrew Bailey, also decided at its unscheduled meeting to re-start the post-crisis asset purchase programme, also known as quantitative easing.

The Bank said it would make an extra £200bn in bond purchases, effectively printing new money to push into the financial system to support activity as the coronavirus crisis threatens to shut down the economy
 
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