UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Presumably this effectively represents the end of FFP in all its guises. Doubt it will really help with our current appeal though. Not that any of this really matters at the moment, of course.
 
The virus will not see off FFP.
That assumes that FFP was designed for the good of the game.
As Khaldoon said at the time, it is madness for an industry short of capital to adopt these rules. No. FFP was designed to protect the old guard and will, therefore, continue in some guise post virus..
 
Two points. The first is the apparent/planned "relaxation" of FFP due to the difficulties brought by the virus to help clubs in financial difficulties. This will be the second time FFP has been "relaxed" and it forces us to draw two conclusions. The first is that FFP was introduced in the first place for no other reason than to hinder/prevent Sheikh Mansour's plans to invest in City and develop the club. Hence City were excluded from "benefits" extended to new owners, but not those who had already fallen foul of the tighter regulations the year before. It is hard to argue that one accounting period enabled UEFA to draw on experience to streamline the regulations but it is a cogent argument that having punished City UEFA wished to free other clubs from the shackles of FFP.

The second is a closely related one. FFP does not, in fact, prevent investment. It allows unlimited investment in stadia, academies etc. What it does is limit investment in players. It is wages and transfer fees which must be limited, and limited in accordance with the UEFA hierarchy of clubs (which seems to allow greater spending to those clubs in the greatest debt). But these fees and wages can only be paid with income from sponsors and TV deals and other (largely) non-football activities and we see quite clearly that this crisis poses a devastating and very long term threat to such revenue streams. FFP has never been factor contributing to the financial stability of football clubs, now it is a threat to the very existence of many. It is a major cause of football's problems and it is ludicrous that any court, arbitration service or any institution outside the UEFA tame poodles society should hand out 30 million euros fines and two year bans to the one club which can weather this storm itself and drag other clubs with it through the crisis.
 
nmc said:
The hypocrisy from these ****s is staggering. The British media will be along shortly to support and justify the decision.
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I dont understand why it needs relaxing if clubs are well run they should be able to cope for a few months I would guess. But if clubs that comply to ffp need help straight away doesnt that prove ffp doesnt work. Having big debts doesnt work unless it's in a football club, than UEFA just move to goal posts !.

I would guess this would work in our favour as it proves ffp is a joke. You cant ban City than move the goal post to save clu s with debt as ffp is meant to stop clubs having debt . Football is so bent and rotten to the core.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
As every day goes by the sport of football loses money. The gravy train has run dry, just when it looked unstoppable.

As everyday goes by the sport of football and it’s owners, governing bodies and parasites need Sheikh Mansour a little bit more. I strongly suspect that the penny is dropping now in lots of places that an industry which refuses outside investment is an industry of idiots, and that some people are about to reap what they sewed when they bit the hand that fed them. There aren’t enough metaphors in the worlds.
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Careful, you'll trigger panic buying of metaphors
 
I can see City adding any more changes to ffp to our case as point proven that the rules are changed virtually yeay to the benefit of the g14
 
It’s laughable really. But I will add that “relaxation of FFP” doesn’t necessarily help all the so-called old guard. I don’t know the details of what UEFA are proposing but I’d imagine it involves owners being allowed to put extra money in to help plug the hole while all this is going on, but some owners of these clubs are tight fuckers who would never put a penny of their own cash in, and rely on the money coming from elsewhere - TV, sponsors, prize money, fans, etc. Now let’s take the Glazers for example - they routinely take money out rather than put it in. And they may have to take even more out to help prop up their shitty shopping malls. Then there’s Tottenham - they have a huge stadium debt to pay down so every day there’s no football impacts on them, but when has Joe Lewis ever dipped into his own pocket? Seriously, I reckon there are owners of football clubs all over the place who are collectively shitting a brick
 
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When footie hits ground zero next year City will , shortly followed by psg , be a financial monster. Ffp will be scrapped to allow investment. The combinations of what could happen all fall in citys favour. Do you really think that utd will have the same fanbase with no footie for 12 months.
 
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