UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Sometimes, all this stuff makes me feel I am in a lucid dream. Is it really happening or have I had one too many? Mind boggling. A world away from the regime of the Alexanders and other old fashioned gentlemen. To think I stood at the scoreboard end getting piss wet through and freezing cold as we struggled, mid div2, against Argyle and the might of Piper, just a few years ago. Well, about 56 to be exact.
Ah, the days when we struggled to complete one pass...
 
Liverpool managed to create a media image of their fans as 'good natured scallies' that resulted in much of the blame being attributed to the state of the stadium. The fact that the stadium was falling apart and that there wasn't better segregation, is no excuse for Liverpool fans charging at police lines, breaking through and attacking the Juventus fans. In the stampede to escape, part of the perimeter wall collapsed. This allowed most to escape but 39 were crushed to death before the collapse.
I'm well aware of all that, I don't recall anyone at the time regarding the Liverpool fans as "good natured scallies" - certainly no-one like me who had been to Anfield as an away supporter - and nowhere in my post did I attempt to excuse their behaviour, I was attempting to place the disaster in the context of football as a whole at that time - and English football in particular - rather than from today's completely different perspective.

With regard to the post I was replying to, the blanket ban on English clubs - rather than just Liverpool - also related to previous poor behaviour in Europe by other clubs' sets of fans since the early 70s, so any of the clubs who suffered from the ban trying to sue Liverpool because of it would have been hypocritical and almost certainly destined to fail.
 
Sometimes, all this stuff makes me feel I am in a lucid dream. Is it really happening or have I had one too many? Mind boggling. A world away from the regime of the Alexanders and other old fashioned gentlemen. To think I stood at the scoreboard end getting piss wet through and freezing cold as we struggled, mid div2, against Argyle and the might of Piper, just a few years ago. Well, about 56 to be exact.
Good old Norman
Glad to see you can remember what happened 56 years ago but probably like me, you can't remember what's happened 56 minutes ago ! !
 
Evidence, schmevidence. The G14 members aren't particularly bothered with evidence - they just want an outcome, a satisfactory conclusion which they hope the incompetent Swiss clowns are gonna provide - a free entry for their memebers to, and our exclusion from, the king's ransom they now call the CL!
 
just a thought, mate, thinking back to Gill being inducted to oversee FFP as the cartel didn’t believe UEFA were going far enough. Once inducted, things changed.

I really hope that the “favours being called in” that @Prestwich_Blue refers to includes exposing Gill for the corrupt little shit stirrer he is... would love to see him in the dock.
 
Right, this is what I first read when I thought it was all over, but subsequent reports came out saying this interpretation of the ECJ findings was incorrect, & that Struani & the fans groups had to go back to the Belgian courts on specific points of order, exhaust that procedure, & then return to the ECJ.

That was my understanding at the time of the challenge, but as everyone said, it's all been quiet ever since. I'm still baffled how UEFA belief they can be given special status in respect to owner investment, when no other European sector can't????
 
I think we've suspected for a long time that UEFA have very little to use against us, if anything, but this screams of the arrogance of a corrupt organisation which is sure it will never be called to account and so it can abrogate to itself the roles of prosecution, judge and jury with absolutely no concern whatsoever for due process. It's the same arrogance that leads to eight PL clubs announcing that they don't need any evidence because they know City have been breaking the rules all the time and so due process isn't necessary and appeals are a waste of time. Staggering. But City will show that they can and will be held to account and they will find it very painful.

I wonder if this 'knowledge' is based on anything tangible or does it just ride on Wenger's oft repeated phrase of 'financial doping'! Arsène said it, so it must be true!
 
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