COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Spain 6100 new cases down from 8100 yesterday and 616 deaths down from over 900 yesterday - lowest since 23rd March.

Are they getting a grip?
 
BlueAnorak said:
I'm still loving the idea that this virus can be controlled by current measures.

- At least 20% of those infected are asymptomatic. So they never show any symptoms at all, yet can still infect others. Worse still, evidence is starting to suggest that this figure may be much higher.

- it's looking like the virus can be passed to others up to 18 feet away! So the 6 foot exclusion range is only about 90% effective.

- Thanks to the great and the good in PHE and NHS, the UK has a doctrine of not wearing facemasks. (Apparantly in the immediate response to a possible outbreak of SARS it would have cost the UK too much to keep a stock of them.) So we dont protect those people we meet by wearing one. They only give the wearer 80% protection, but that's not the point - THEY PROTECT OTHERS FROM YOU. There is a reason surgical teams wear them to protect the patient! From the lunchtime news, I also see the BBC is still trying to keep the doctrine going - it is truely pathetic.

And they think testing can control it? Maybe iin a country like China where human rights dont exit, it is an aid. But it won't do much here (except for health service staff of course). To stand a chance you would have to quintruple the level of testing in Germany! The country lauded as doing very well.

The sooner they extract blood plasma from blood donated from survivors and inject it into people at risk the better. Until we get a vacine this is the only way it an be contained and it's effect minimised.
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Do you have links for the 18 feet thing please?
 
COVID-19 testing machines that can make a diagnosis in less than 90 minutes are to be rolled out across the UK.

Ten of the portable machines, called Samba II, are already being used to diagnose coronavirus patients at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge as of this week.

Developed by a University of Cambridge spin-off company called Diagnostics for the Real World, researchers said their COVID-19 tests had been validated by Public Health England (PHE) - and that they were expected to be launched in hospitals across the country

Researchers said the Samba II - originally developed for early HIV diagnosis - is "extremely sensitive" at detecting active infections, with 98.7% of people correctly identified as having COVID-19

Nasal and throat swabs from patients are loaded into the machines which look for tiny traces of genetic material belonging to the coronavirus.

The machines will be used to test NHS staff and members of the public suspected of having COVID-19

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-accuracy-to-be-rolled-out-across-uk-11967401
 
Another 568 people have died in the UK after contracting coronavirus - bringing the total number of deaths to 2,921

The number is slightly higher than the 563 people who died with COVID-19 on Wednesday

more to follow

33,718 cases,up by 4224
 
Pretty bad when it’s seen as a ‘good’ number just because it hasn’t really increased.
 
Is there any stat out there to say how many people contracted the virus whilst observing a decent level of social distancing?

For example exclude all hospital workers and people working outside of home and caught it off someone who didn't observe social distancing, e.g. a teenager in the house who snuck out. Just the number of new cases for people who work from home or are stay at home folk.

The reason I ask is to gauge how likely it is to catch the virus while going for the weekly shop or the daily jog. Again presuming that people are being as responsible as possible.

I'd imagine such a stat isn't there because it's too complicated but I'd love to know if there's a trend upwards. If not then why make restrictions tougher by banning outdoor exercise and shopping for essentials.
 
TonyM said:
Is there any stat out there to say how many people contracted the virus whilst observing a decent level of social distancing?

For example exclude all hospital workers and people working outside of home and caught it off someone who didn't observe social distancing, e.g. a teenager in the house who snuck out. Just the number of new cases for people who work from home or are stay at home folk.

The reason I ask is to gauge how likely it is to catch the virus while going for the weekly shop or the daily jog. Again presuming that people are being as responsible as possible.

I'd imagine such a stat isn't there because it's too complicated but I'd love to know if there's a trend upwards. If not then why make restrictions tougher by banning outdoor exercise and shopping for essentials.
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Mate, they haven't got the faintest idea how many people have actually caught it in total so unfortunately there is no hope of them having any reliable information at a more granular level.
 
TonyM said:
Is there any stat out there to say how many people contracted the virus whilst observing a decent level of social distancing?

For example exclude all hospital workers and people working outside of home and caught it off someone who didn't observe social distancing, e.g. a teenager in the house who snuck out. Just the number of new cases for people who work from home or are stay at home folk.

The reason I ask is to gauge how likely it is to catch the virus while going for the weekly shop or the daily jog. Again presuming that people are being as responsible as possible.

I'd imagine such a stat isn't there because it's too complicated but I'd love to know if there's a trend upwards. If not then why make restrictions tougher by banning outdoor exercise and shopping for essentials.
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I believe your last paragraph is the one that highlights why it isn’t possible.
Every time I go to the shop I feel like I’m putting my life at risk.
We are now shopping once a fortnight for the essentials, vegetables, fruit and wine.
Other than that we are keeping ourselves away from others and keeping our fingers crossed.
 
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