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Summerbuzz said:
Karen's right about the false sense of security, it is at least worth bearing in mind. It's an old, well observed fact, that when authorities put rails up to protect pedestrians, people drive commensurately faster and pay less attention. The ER doctor who someone posted yesterday said N95 masks were a no go for citizens, and that was because the medical profession needed every last one urgently. He suggested people use other masks, and then said, this is simply to train you to not touch your face. As far as he was concerned, people are picking this virus up on their hands and getting sick because it gets on their face from their. It sounded like he thought Americans would all go with masks regardless of any use, and he was mostly concerned with pointing them away from the vital medical stuff and refocusing them onto hand hygeine and face touching.
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Misdirection on a grand scale.
It does not protect the wearer (well it does but not much).
It protects others from the wearer.

Ask yourself, why do surgical teams wear masks?
 
BlueAnorak said:
That's not the point. The point of the mask is it makes other people more safe from the person wearing the mask. It reduces the requirement of a 6 foot safe gap down to 1 foot. It is essentiatial to reduce transmission on public transport.
The fact it gives you 80% protection is a bonus.
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It may but I think the thinking is, its better for people to just stay 2 metres away. The 1 ft with a mask will depend on the mask so better just keep well apart.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
growth rate is the same as UK and Germany. It's the same for every country until after the virus peak. I have my own feelings as to why but until we have a antibody test it's not worth speculating.
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I’m interested.
 
blueparrot said:
It may but I think the thinking is, its better for people to just stay 2 metres away. The 1 ft with a mask will depend on the mask so better just keep well apart.
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You can't on a fucking train, tram or bus.
Which is where they should be worn when we restart the economy.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Misdirection on a grand scale.
It does not protect the wearer (well it does but not much).
It protects others from the wearer.

Ask yourself, why do surgical teams wear masks?
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They wear n95 masks. Very different!

Misdirection??? I'm already paranoid! You're not allowed to be paranoid at me. Because THAT'S misdirection!
 
karen7 said:
Green shoots?

Not looking at the data so far,need to be patient and look for long term trends

Questions about mental wellbeing,are masks helpful?pregnant women giving birth on their own

Nurse

Patients who have to die on their own is terrible,staff are helping keep families are in communicating by phone ,skype etc,staff going to great lengths

5 million given to Mind,mental health really important

Facemasks ,contraversal area,WHO have done a review,no evidence of well people wearing them making a difference,do not recommend the public use them
,more a cultural thing
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By well they presumably mean no symptoms. But you should wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing. But if you are coughing or sneezing why on earth are you still walking around?
 
BlueAnorak said:
That's not the point. The point of the mask is it makes other people more safe from the person wearing the mask. It reduces the requirement of a 6 foot safe gap down to 1 foot. It is essentiatial to reduce transmission on public transport.
The fact it gives you 80% protection is a bonus.
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look at it like this,the rules are if you have symptoms you go into isolation,you shouldn 't be on public transport or anywhere else outside,the WHO(according to our medic) says no so that should be good enough
You have said it reduces the distancing down to one foot,that goes against world wide advice,the adv ice is not to use them because people relax and that is the last thing the world needs everybody to do
 
SWP's back said:
I’m interested.
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My simulation modelling his possible reasoning has finished. It says 'There is an overwhelming chance GD is positing that it's the uniform trajectory is due to massive spread of the virus, hundreds of millions of unrecorded asymptomatic infections, and we're all gonna be immune by July'

We better bloody hope so.
 
Vic said:
By well they presumably mean no symptoms. But you should wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing. But if you are coughing or sneezing why on earth are you still walking around?
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Exactly,you should be in isolation but you can say but i have a mask so i can go out,totally the wrong thing to do,it changes your behaviour away from the rules
I never thought an ardent rebel as i am (for varying reasons) would be telling people to stick to the rules !
 
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