COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Psychedelic Casual said:
I don’t know why anyone is paying any sort of attention to any daily death figures after it was shown that we are just popping previous days’ deaths on to any old days’ stats:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....-hold-in-uk-earlier-than-thought-data-reveals
“On Thursday, 561 deaths were reported, but only 84 took place in the 24 hours to 5pm on 1 April.”

All daily stats are null and void, for us at least. You can’t read anything into them.
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Nah, they aren't null and void for that reason.
Divide previous day death totals before the change by 24 and allocate 15/24ths to the next day.

The rest of UK statistics are pretty dire.
New case totals are actually "cases requiring medical intervention" for the most part but we dont know hospital admissions for COVID-19 in the UK or positive tests on NHS staff - Not till quarterly ONS stats come out anyway.
 
Rammy Blue said:
I disagree about it lessening the effectiveness of social distancing, that’s about all we can do until a vaccine comes along, however it does prove that contact tracing is utterly pointless.
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Sorry i should have expanded on that. When i say reduce effectiveness i don't mean the act of it now. More so when it is relaxed many will be lulled into a false sense of security they are fine to move around people. It is more of a "sleeper agent" than we first thought.

The main finding was how it messes up contact mapping.
 
Claytop said:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1375

Could be rubbish but would be pretty big if anywhere near that number was asymptomatic.

Not seen it reported anywhere else than there mind.
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The thing that confuses me about these sort of reports are if true and the virus has been in circulation longer than we think why do the serious and fatal cases seem to happen in such a clump and spike over a few weeks surely those vulnerable to serious cases of it would catch it from early on. Having said that my son seemed to have all the symptoms over new year, my wife then just had a cough my daughter and myself nothing. We’ve discounted it because the time and contaigence seem all wrong but it would be interesting to be able to get an antibody test for him at some point.
 
Gabriel said:
Today's figures from Belgium and the Netherlands look starkly different in terms of new cases (1,661 and 904, respectively), but both countries advise focussing on the number hospitalised.

Belgium:
"Of the newly confirmed cases, 503 have been hospitalised, bringing the total to 7,773, of whom 1,245 are in intensive care, 40 in the last 24 hours. The ICU capacity in the country is filled to the tune of 56%. 985 people are on respirators, an increase of 69 in the past 24 hours."
https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...irus-1661-new-cases-confirmed-140-new-deaths/

Netherlands
A total of 904 new cases yesterday of whom 336 were hospitalised.
https://www.rivm.nl/actuele-informatie-over-coronavirus
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As I said you need to know the number hospitalised as a result of positive testing and the criteria for doing the test in the first place.
 
Always said these companies should never be anywhere in hospitals.
Any when the contract up for renewal go back to the way it was
Southport and Ormskirk NHS


Trust has had to restrict visitors due to Covid-19

An NHS trust has been told it will have to pay almost £10,000 a month to provide families with free phone calls during the pandemic.

Southport and Ormskirk NHS Trust has had to restrict visitors due to Covid-19.

It asked the company that provides bedside telephones about diverting the costs to the trust and was told it would be charged £9,984 a month.

Hospedia was contacted by the BBC but has not commented.

The trust said it was disappointed with the company's suggested charges and has raised the matter with NHS England, which awarded it the contract to provide phone and TV services across dozens of NHS trust
Irene Simpkin's 87-year-old mother Odile has been in Southport and Formby District General Hospital for almost a fortnight after suffering multiple pelvis and hip fractures in a fall.

She made a 16-minute call to her mum and said she was charged £11.33.

thought that it was flipping outrageous, just horrendous. I just think it's very, very greedy," she said.

"There are so many people making concessions, why do these companies continue to cash in?

"While all this is going on, can they not just make some sort of a deal where they cut those costs?"

Hospedia uses premium-rate 0872 phone lines, which is the prefix often used for tarot readings or adult entertainment calls.

The company's website says its operates in more than 130 NHS sites and offers TV units, which attract a daily fee, and premium rate telephones at a patient's bedside.

According to its latest accounts, profits increased nearly six-fold last year to more than £2.5m.

Rosie Cooper, MP for West Lancashire and a member of the health select committee, said she had written to Health Secretary
Matthew Hancock asking what can be done about the call costs.

"I am disgusted that this company is looking to profit off what is an incredibly difficult time for patients, family members and NHS staff," she said.

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DazWA9 said:
I think that some of them are just keyboard warriors hiding behind fake names mate.
I genuinely shudder to think that some people post and have these views towards the NHS workers.
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I've seen it in other cases
Family tragedies pricks pop up
 
kippaxwarrior said:
As tragic as that is it's "only" up by 24.

Hopefully the the experts are right and we have reached only plateau
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I hope you are right. It doesn't seem that long ago 24 deaths in a day was horrifying.
Do they state "admissions" (to ICU etc ) anywhere?
 
Does anyone else have a little wobble when these numbers come out? I've generally adapted to this life indoors thing and largely started to get used to this grim normality, but then 2pm comes and the numbers appear online and my head goes woozy for a good ten mins. It's fucking bleak isn't it?

Please don't reply saying 'stay offline', as we all know that's totally unreasonable and not even possible really at the moment.
 
Ban-jani said:
Honest question.

Does it not piss you off that our entire economy is fucked, our friends and family are being laid off and are sometimes dying, because they can’t eat fucking normal food?
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There’s different tastes between European countries.
And not many enjoy our normal food.
Even the bread is repulsive to them.

the Chinese have a different palate too. But mostly from being poor and eating whatever was plentiful. That is now their normal.

You will eat grass When you’re hungry enough and drink you’re own piss when thirsty enough. So a few bats wouldn’t be a problem.
 
domalino said:
Germany are doing it currently. Random testing of 100,000 people with no symptoms.

It was announced last week but I think it will take them a while.


I still think it is absolutely insane that despite use hearing that basically only people needing ICU are getting tests with people everyone knows have the virus but not in life threatening condition being turned away, we're still only 22% positive from 180,000 tests.
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I don't think the last bit is correct. Anyone who is showing severe symptoms is tested.
From what I read the other day only 40% of those go onto ICU.
 
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