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True_Blue69 said:
Come on people lets at least try to be positive when there is a big drop in deaths. If there was a huge rise people wouldn't be talking about being a blip, but a sign of how badly the government have handled it etc and how it will be 2k a day by next week. Last couple of days stats have been relatively good, the NHS is still coping and new cases has levelled off. We are making progress and if we keep going in the right direction may start to see some restrictions lifted by the end of the month.

Edit: Posted at the same time as the post re. Pep's Mum :(
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Good post, Some people have nailed their colours to the government has fucked this up mast. Let’s hope these better than expected figures are indicative of a better result then had been projected. Fingers crossed.
 
Austria announces plans to end lockdown
The Austrian Chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, has said the country is planning to let smaller shops reopen next week, with the aim of reopening all shops and malls from 1 May.

From then onwards, hotels and restaurants will open step-by-step from mid-May at the earliest, but a decision on that will come in late April. No events will be held until at least late June.

Kurz told a news conference that since Austria had acted earlier than most countries, that gave it the ability to reopen shops sooner as well.

If all goes well, it will reopen non-essential shops of less than 400 square metres and DIY shops on April 14, followed by all shops and malls on May 1, he said.

Meanwhile general lockdown measures will be extended until the end of April, and schools will remain closed until at least mid-May.

Kurz also announced that from Monday, face masks will be compulsory on public transport.
 
domalino said:
Austria announces plans to end lockdown
The Austrian Chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, has said the country is planning to let smaller shops reopen next week, with the aim of reopening all shops and malls from 1 May.

From then onwards, hotels and restaurants will open step-by-step from mid-May at the earliest, but a decision on that will come in late April. No events will be held until at least late June.

Kurz told a news conference that since Austria had acted earlier than most countries, that gave it the ability to reopen shops sooner as well.

If all goes well, it will reopen non-essential shops of less than 400 square metres and DIY shops on April 14, followed by all shops and malls on May 1, he said.

Meanwhile general lockdown measures will be extended until the end of April, and schools will remain closed until at least mid-May.

Kurz also announced that from Monday, face masks will be compulsory on public transport.
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Looks like they managed to get a grasp of it quite quickly. Heres hoping they have a plan to mitigate new cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/austria/
 
chesterbells said:
On what grounds? I mean, it sounds good, but how can they declare that, so soon??

Edit - sorry mate, just seen above post
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Domalino has given a bit more info below but I assume that most Countries exit plans will be informed by a a reduction in the growth of new cases and maybe behavioural science advice on what the impact of a lockdown might have.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Come on people lets at least try to be positive when there is a big drop in deaths. If there was a huge rise people wouldn't be talking about being a blip, but a sign of how badly the government have handled it etc and how it will be 2k a day by next week.
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Hope you are right. Would just caution, however, that I think last Monday saw a lower death figure only for it to be followed by a substantial rise on the Tuesday. Perhaps it's harder to collate the data on a Monday. The next three days should give a clearer indication.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Probably because of this:



You can imagine what this will look like 7 to 10 days from now. They peaked 11 days ago, from a small peak.
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While its interesting, it doesn't really hold any relevance to what the UK's exit plan will look like or when it will happen. We have nearly 5000 recorded deaths, they have 200, we have nearly 50,000 'recorded' cases and they have 12,000. The scale of the problem is not the same.

Our exit plan will follow the SPain/Italy model - based on the success the have.
 
squirtyflower said:
I think there’s been a slight difference here having seen what happened in both Italy and Spain.
We ourselves had started isolating before the Cup Final.
Loads of us on here we’re calling for a lockdown or closure of some sort at least two weeks before it came into effect.
Stopped going to the pub, stopped going out to eat, declined work away from home unless absolutely necessary.
After the Cup Final we sold our tickets for the remaining games and sent tickets back for some, as it happened they got cancelled anyway. Reduced our shopping trips and mixing with others.
If just 10% of the population have also done this it would begin to have an effect on cases sooner than we expect.
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Yeah, good points. It wasn't a sudden lockdown over here but restrictions were gradually put in place (along with advice about working from home, etc) which many of us started to adhere to. Last day I set foot in a pub was the Old Trafford derby so I must confess it wasn't as soon as you, but talk of this was already taking over in the week prior to that. I'd just be interested to know how the population behaved in Italy and Spain in the days and weeks leading up to their lockdowns, and whether they were all mixing freely and stuff.
 
A bit more on it here and the club statement. Thoughts are with you and your family Pep.

The mother of Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola has died after contracting coronavirus, aged 82.

A club statement issued on Monday read: “The Manchester City family are devastated to report the death today of Pep’s mother Dolors Sala Carrio in Manresa, Barcelona after contracting Corona Virus. She was 82-years-old.


“Everyone associated with the club sends their most heartfelt sympathy at this most distressing time to Pep, his family and all their friends.”
 
M18CTID said:
Yeah, good points. It wasn't a sudden lockdown over here but restrictions were gradually put in place (along with advice about working from home, etc) which many of us started to adhere to. Last day I set foot in a pub was the Old Trafford derby so I must confess it wasn't as soon as you, but talk of this was already taking over in the week prior to that. I'd just be interested to know how the population behaved in Italy and Spain in the days and weeks leading up to their lockdowns, and whether they were all mixing freely and stuff.
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Yes they are good points. I made the comments some while back about whether peoples' own social distancing would have an effect before the government's current crack down does. Loads of companies - mine included - were asking people to work from home where possible, way before the government was suggesting it. The Mrs and I did our last shop in a store, 4 weeks ago today. We've barely been out since.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
While its interesting, it doesn't really hold any relevance to what the UK's exit plan will look like or when it will happen. We have nearly 5000 recorded deaths, they have 200, we have nearly 50,000 'recorded' cases and they have 12,000. The scale of the problem is not the same.

Our exit plan will follow the SPain/Italy model - based on the success the have.
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scale is the important word. They have 8.8m population we have way over 60 odd million. We are going to have more deaths than Austria , just like the USA will have more deaths than us and China, oh wait, doesn’t work anymore.....
 
Just to give you a rough idea of the financial costs that this damned virus is bringing. In Ireland, the Dept of Social Protection (our equivalent of what used to be the DHSS when I was living in Blighty) processed 714,000 income support payments up to last friday. 507,000 Pandemic Unemployment Payment (PUP) claims, and 207,000 standard jobseeker's (the dole) claims.

At the end of February, there were "only" 182,000 on the live register of unemployed people.

The PUP was only announced on March 16th. Gone from zero to over half a million in three weeks. Frightening. And that's only a small country like here. Fuck knows what it's costing the UK..
 
M18CTID said:
Yeah, good points. It wasn't a sudden lockdown over here but restrictions were gradually put in place (along with advice about working from home, etc) which many of us started to adhere to. Last day I set foot in a pub was the Old Trafford derby so I must confess it wasn't as soon as you, but talk of this was already taking over in the week prior to that. I'd just be interested to know how the population behaved in Italy and Spain in the days and weeks leading up to their lockdowns, and whether they were all mixing freely and stuff.
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Iirc there were still Brits abroad on holiday in Spain, and there were plenty skiing in Northern Italy over half term completely unaware of the catastrophe about to explode.
 
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