COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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worsleyweb said:
Nor rising to you. Take care. If people did not slag off a man in intensive care with words like **** and narcissist there would be no issue. It really is that simple. Going back on ignore for a while so i don't have to see you response. But take care. (again)
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It was a statement of fact. I don’t want a rise out of you, there’s more important shit going on in my life that needs dealing with.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Quite right. Mass testing and tracing has to be the way forward out of this. Once they ease the lockdown they need everyone to get an app on their phone which, in effect, says ‘hello’ to other phones it encounters. If someone tests positive and they’ve been in close proximity to your phone, you’ll get an alert saying you need a test, that day. I’m probably making it sound more complicated than it is, but it’s the way to open the economy up again.
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I think it's clear now that the social isolation has worked in so far as the hospitals have not been overwhelmed. Focus now has to switch to mass-testing.

It will happen and I am pretty certain it will revolve around fast-testing kits because they can be scaled up. This is what states are planning in the USA. Mayor Cuomo in New York has made fast-testing the centre-piece of his plan to get NY back. Abbots Labs has a point of care testing kit that you can put across the country. There must be other pharmaceutical companies who can produce similar products (Iknow there are different systems in the US). In the USA their hospitals are set up to use the traditional systems run by Roche and they have spent the last week producing and distributing the new infrastructure. Then they need to get their hospitals and workplaces to use the fast testing kits rather than existing systems.

Oxford Uni has a fast test proposition. South Korea and China have been selling their own versions. If the UK can not develop their own, then they need to test which is best, and acquire them and set up a national infrastructure. Use the Army if you have to.

We were told a week ago that an academic (I forget his name) had been given responsibility for testing. Hopefully he and his people have been busy working away and plans are advanced. we need to hear about this now. Even our extremely placid press are well fed up with this. Everyone can see that this is an urgent requirement. If it's not possible, why? explain it, and what you are doing.

South Korea don;t actually do millions of tests. It's in the level of hundreds of thousands and that's sufficient to operate society on a limited basis (no schools, or nurseries but offices and workplaces open). Gradualist steps are required.
 
jay_mcfc said:
This isn’t good. Hopefully it was just a case of them not fully recovering because if it is a case of being reinfected after being completely cleared we are in real danger.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/51-re...in-south-korea/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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I’ve just been trying to find a report I read, at some point during all this, that said something like COVID-19 attaches to cells and unlocks the door to get inside the cell to replicate and move onto another cell. However, even if our body fights off some of the replicated cells, some of the replicated viruses remain in some cells and can then replicate further.

I can’t bloody find it though. Maybe it was false!

But this might explain why there are cases of reinfection.
 
The only thing that will get us back to normal is a vaccine. Testing will help for those that have had the virus and are immune to get back to normal.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ve just been trying to find a report I read, at some point during all this, that said something like COVID-19 attaches to cells and unlocks the door to get inside the cell to replicate and move onto another cell. However, even if our body fights off some of the replicated cells, some of the replicated viruses remain in some cells and can then replicate further.

I can’t bloody find it though. Maybe it was false!

But this might explain why there are cases of reinfection.
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Not sure if it is this one but I found it interesting and sound similar. Posted earlier in this thread.
 
The lack of an exit strategy is the one thing that currently keeps me up at night. I'm relatively content my loved ones are safe at the moment (fingers crossed), but it's what happens after the lockdown ends now concerns me. It doesn't really seem there is a plan. If there is one, none of us have a clue what it is, nor do any of the press. I'm really scared that they'll go 'right, back to work you all go', and then we're back at square one and we've all gotta basically just hope every day not to wake up to a call that one of our parents has caught it. It's a shite way to live day to day.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ve just been trying to find a report I read, at some point during all this, that said something like COVID-19 attaches to cells and unlocks the door to get inside the cell to replicate and move onto another cell. However, even if our body fights off some of the replicated cells, some of the replicated viruses remain in some cells and can then replicate further.

I can’t bloody find it though. Maybe it was false!

But this might explain why there are cases of reinfection.
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I read the same thing - it was explained on Twitter how the virus infects cells.
 


breathing can transmit at 2m
coughing upto 4m
sneezing up to 7/8m

Areosol vs droplet now no longer applies and considered old fashioned thinking.
 
twosips said:
The lack of an exit strategy is the one thing that currently keeps me up at night. I'm relatively content my loved ones are safe at the moment (fingers crossed), but it's what happens after the lockdown ends now concerns me. It doesn't really seem there is a plan. If there is one, none of us have a clue what it is, nor do any of the press. I'm really scared that they'll go 'right, back to work you all go', and then we're back at square one and we've all gotta basically just hope every day not to wake up to a call that one of our parents has caught it. It's a shite way to live day to day.
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Well apparently they are thinking of re-opening schools after Easter, so presumably with that and all the germs schools carry, we'll also see 1000s go back to work and not socially-distance.

IF that happens, I can see us turning the curve upwards again.
 
quiet_riot said:
Well apparently they are thinking of re-opening schools after Easter, so presumably with that and all the germs schools carry, we'll also see 1000s go back to work and not socially-distance.

IF that happens, I can see us turning the curve upwards again.
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Just how can that be a plan though? Surely they can't reason it.
 
quiet_riot said:
I'll probably have this post removed by over-zealous mods as well, but it would be reflective of the gov's "plan" up to this point...
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tbf they haven’t actually announced a plan/exit strategy yet. They won’t until the threat has significantly gone down. I think it would be pointless to say your can go to work in may for example.

I’d have thought it would be a gradual process over the year. Some of the reports in Italy of easing restrictions sound mad to me though and the obvious risk is of millions more getting infected
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-...8d95c0e2d2c7067796d62c&pinned_post_type=share

The BBC has been inside a new temporary hospital in Manchester which will treat coronavirus patients.

Manchester Central convention centre has been converted into NHS Nightingale Hospital North West, and is due to open by the end of the week.

Work started on 28 March and the hospital will be able to provide treatment for up to 750 coronavirus patients.
 
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There's a lot we don't know yet.

Animal human reverse infection. Re Tigers in zoo.

People possibly getting it again quite soon after all clear. Korea

The distance needed to avoid infection. See video above.

Taking all this into account, going back to school or work anytime soon would seem crazy.
 
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