COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[abu13]

I suspect we are going to see some big jumps in numbers on Wednesday and Thursday, there is no way the figures coming in over a 4 day bank holiday are going to e complete.

 

[abu13]

Mirror on line saying China may be having a second coming of this fucking virus, I pray the uk don’t lift lock down to early we’ve come this far we may as well see it through

I think every country will have a second wave as they start to lift the lock down measures, it will be the level of infection of this second wave that will be interesting and more so if people infected already have a relapse.

 

[kaz7]

Yes, I was thinking more of who you may have caught it off , as worseyweb was negative. It was obviously spreading through the population through February if not before.

It could have been any one of a thousand surfaces or from a person,we had to go through massive villa crowds outside of their pubs and of course the one of ours we were in was packed like sardines esp at the bar,add that i hugged a few people,i would love to know which moment it was

 

[Indaparkside]

I think every country will have a second wave as they start to lift the lock down measures, it will be the level of infection of this second wave that will be interesting and more so if people infected already have a relapse.

We are an island so hopefully can stop the spread being as deadly as in other European countries if we keep our eye on the ball

 

[kaz7]

I suspect we are going to see some big jumps in numbers on Wednesday and Thursday, there is no way the figures coming in over a 4 day bank holiday are going to e complete.

Yep, Sturgan is making that point,the numbers will be higher later on in the week

 

[blueparrot]

I see it as still the herd theory, but it spreads at a slower rate, but still spreads, at a rate the NHS isn't overwhelmed. So ventilators are available to everyone when needed. Major problem being lots will die.

I know we don’t like the herd immunity as a policy. However I don’t see an alternative to some sort of controlled herd immunity other than full even tighter lockdown until a vaccine, which won’t happen. As you say a controlled spread to protect the NHS . At some stage before we are virus free and before w have a vaccine some of the restrictions will be lifted while the spread at a slower rate continues. Then maybe tightened again if it rises too quick.

 

[Marvin]

Herd immunity is not a theory. Neither is it a policy. It is an inevitable consequence. It is and will occur for as long as the virus is in circulation.

Anyway, todays update.

It was a policy at one point in the UK. As a reminder as one month ago the Chief Scientific adviser to the government Sir Patrick Valance said,

"Our aim is to try and reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely; also, because the vast majority of people get a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it. Those are the key things we need to do."

 

[blueparrot]

Yep, Sturgan is making that point,the numbers will be higher later on in the week

Yes, also a better breakdown of figures.


More detailed care home figures expected later this week


Ms Sturgeon says figures due out later this week will break down the statistics detailing where people have died, including whether it was in a hospital, in a care home or at home.

The Scottish government is working with the Care Inspectorate to provide support for care homes and it is working hard to ensure full and robust information can be published about the number of cases in care homes, explains the first minister.

 

[Bill Walker]

I know we don’t like the herd immunity as a policy. However I don’t see an alternative to some sort of controlled herd immunity other than full even tighter lockdown until a vaccine, which won’t happen. As you say a controlled spread to protect the NHS . At some stage before we are virus free and before w have a vaccine some of the restrictions will be lifted while the spread at a slower rate continues. Then maybe tightened again if it rises too quick.

Surely social distancing is here to stay, until a vaccine is available.
I'm baffled how they think they can finish this season ?

 

[abu13]

Yep, Sturgan is making that point,the numbers will be higher later on in the week

Seems wrong to think that we will be thankful for days when only 500 deaths a day are being reported.

 

[richardtheref]

We are an island so hopefully can stop the spread being as deadly as in other European countries if we keep our eye on the ball

Not to pee on your chips but we are currently projected to have the most deaths in Europe

 

[kaz7]

Seems wrong to think that we will be thankful for days when only 500 deaths a day are being reported.

This whole thing is sureal,who would have thought at the lovely day at wembley that a few weeks on we would be waiting on death figures and obsessing over loo roll,i keep thinking i am going to wake up soon

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Not to pee on your chips but we are currently projected to have the most deaths in Europe

You say that like it’s an incontrovertible fact.

 

[blueparrot]

Surely social distancing is here to stay, until a vaccine is available.
I'm baffled how they think they can finish this season ?

I’d have though so yes, until we get antibody tests though and have at least a ballpark figure of how many have had it we can’t know for sure.
Just as an example if the 1 death per thousand was right we are at about 10 million and if it’s as contagious as it seems how long before we get to 20 or 30 million?.
Just throwing stuff out there though I have no strong opinion on how many have or have had it, we just don’t know enough.

 

[Indaparkside]

Not to pee on your chips but we are currently projected to have the most deaths in Europe

I meant after we have levelled out
Keep every fucker out:)

 

[Manc in London]

I spent the day with worsleweb,he got tested as i had tested positive and he is fin e,

Well, at least we can be confident nothing went on between the both of you

 

[kaz7]

Well, at least we can be confident nothing went on between the both of you

we defo didn't do a walker lol

 

[Manc in London]

The only way I can make any sense of our version of a "lockdown" is if we still believe the herd immunity arguement is valid, i fully understand that the Government may not want to admit to this but i can see no other reason why people are still having the freedom of movement we currently have and the fact that we are basically self policing ourselves.

Pretty sure I read about some research that suggested our soft lockdown has been more effective (in terms of delivering social isolation) than some places in Europe who took a stricter approach.

 

[cleavers]

Re Passover it began last Wednesday and the first two nights are traditionally when families get together and celebrate rather than the last night. The whole community was told that this year families shouldn’t gather due to the restrictions. Hopefully the Muslim community will also be instructed not to gather during Ramadan.

Thanks re passover, and I'm sure they will be instructed accordingly, just as we all have been, but its not working where I live now.

 

[SWP's back]

he got tested as i had tested positive and he is fin e

If anyone, for one second, believes he got tested, which I’d presume 99% don’t.