UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
Uefa and their acolytes are in no financial position to veto our participation in next season's Champions League, subject to a delay by CAS.

You don't gamble with money you don't have - especially so when it is money which would bankrupt you if a ruling is in our favour.

The more collusion there is, the safer ground City are on - protectionism and vested interests are arguments we continue to evidence.

Incidentally, imagine my surprise to learn David Gill was part of the two-man delegation which spoke to Uefa this week...
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Gill is a right piece of work someone must have shit on that corrupt fcuker.
 
Let us end this defeatist nonsense that UEFA and the cartel will find a way to ban us whatever happens. There is no doubt they would love to be able to do this and they've given it a go and some of our posters give the impression that they actually love being the victims of a massive conspiracy; it's almost the perfect excuse for failure! And yet the one thing our club doesn't do now is fail. Not since 2008. And already the club has shown UEFA that if we are to be banned it will only be after the case has gone through every court in Europe and been found lawful. The chances of that do not seem at all good and whereas some fans harp on about our weakness, about what a soft touch we are, UEFA and the cartel worry about our strength. Whereas some are at panic stations because our earlier appeal to CAS was not upheld, UEFA are fully aware that it was found to be "not without some merit", that Cas found "worrisome" that concerns about leaks from the IC could be dismissed without even cursory examination and that the grounds of the appeal may be reconsidered in the light of the AC's decision. Then there is City's claim that the club's "overwhelming evidence" that it had not breached FFP was not even considered, while we do not even know what evidence, if any, UEFA has. "They must have some or they wouldn't be pushing it.." is not an argument and doesn't fit UEFA's performance in the Bosman case, which they took all the way on the ludicrous case that footballers' contracts are no business of the courts because UEFA are the governing body of European football and decide what goes. Try that one again lads. UEFA's process was secretive and hardly constitutes due process and City are right to be optimistic that the appeal will be upheld if only on procedural grounds. But City have many, many more strings to their bow than procedural grounds. So cheer up and let's enjoy the sight of UEFA trying to decide who qualifies fo
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Let us end this defeatist nonsense that UEFA and the cartel will find a way to ban us whatever happens. There is no doubt they would love to be able to do this and they've given it a go and some of our posters give the impression that they actually love being the victims of a massive conspiracy; it's almost the perfect excuse for failure! And yet the one thing our club doesn't do now is fail. Not since 2008. And already the club has shown UEFA that if we are to be banned it will only be after the case has gone through every court in Europe and been found lawful. The chances of that do not seem at all good and whereas some fans harp on about our weakness, about what a soft touch we are, UEFA and the cartel worry about our strength. Whereas some are at panic stations because our earlier appeal to CAS was not upheld, UEFA are fully aware that it was found to be "not without some merit", that Cas found "worrisome" that concerns about leaks from the IC could be dismissed without even cursory examination and that the grounds of the appeal may be reconsidered in the light of the AC's decision. Then there is City's claim that the club's "overwhelming evidence" that it had not breached FFP was not even considered, while we do not even know what evidence, if any, UEFA has. "They must have some or they wouldn't be pushing it.." is not an argument and doesn't fit UEFA's performance in the Bosman case, which they took all the way on the ludicrous case that footballers' contracts are no business of the courts because UEFA are the governing body of European football and decide what goes. Try that one again lads. UEFA's process was secretive and hardly constitutes due process and City are right to be optimistic that the appeal will be upheld if only on procedural grounds. But City have many, many more strings to their bow than procedural grounds. So cheer up and let's enjoy the sight of UEFA trying to decide who qualifies fo
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I like the cut of your jib.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
Let us end this defeatist nonsense that UEFA and the cartel will find a way to ban us whatever happens. There is no doubt they would love to be able to do this and they've given it a go and some of our posters give the impression that they actually love being the victims of a massive conspiracy; it's almost the perfect excuse for failure! And yet the one thing our club doesn't do now is fail. Not since 2008. And already the club has shown UEFA that if we are to be banned it will only be after the case has gone through every court in Europe and been found lawful. The chances of that do not seem at all good and whereas some fans harp on about our weakness, about what a soft touch we are, UEFA and the cartel worry about our strength. Whereas some are at panic stations because our earlier appeal to CAS was not upheld, UEFA are fully aware that it was found to be "not without some merit", that Cas found "worrisome" that concerns about leaks from the IC could be dismissed without even cursory examination and that the grounds of the appeal may be reconsidered in the light of the AC's decision. Then there is City's claim that the club's "overwhelming evidence" that it had not breached FFP was not even considered, while we do not even know what evidence, if any, UEFA has. "They must have some or they wouldn't be pushing it.." is not an argument and doesn't fit UEFA's performance in the Bosman case, which they took all the way on the ludicrous case that footballers' contracts are no business of the courts because UEFA are the governing body of European football and decide what goes. Try that one again lads. UEFA's process was secretive and hardly constitutes due process and City are right to be optimistic that the appeal will be upheld if only on procedural grounds. But City have many, many more strings to their bow than procedural grounds. So cheer up and let's enjoy the sight of UEFA trying to decide who qualifies fo
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My hat, Sir, were I wearing one, would usually be tipped in the general direction of The Blessed Prestwich Blue (‘may his tribe increase’) for his detailed eviscerations of the venal sports media and all the tribal johnnies from other clubs who think they’re going to get one over us at the end of all of this.. however, for this timely contribution, please be assured that, for this weekend at least, my hat, were I to be wearing one, would be tipped in your general direction..
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Love the caveat in the latest UEFA proposals, to the effect that they can veto clubs if there is a “public perception of unfairness” in a team being nominated for next season’s CL on the basis of the points they have accrued domestically per game this season. In other words, if City’s CAS hearing doesn’t take place before next season starts and City can therefore qualify for the CL on the basis of being in 2nd place in the PL at the point of truncation this season, UEFA can still arbitrarily veto our participation in the event that the dippers, the rags and their media stooges kick up a stink....which of course they will.
They (UEFA) really are a bunch of utterly bent cnuts

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...uefa-statement-champions-league-news-18137185
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I guess the "public perception of fairness" will be based around a certain letter which, coincidentally, wasn't signed by sheff united..
 
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