Sorry - you are not able to understand basics and make no effort to even trysadly you have recognised the economic self harm Brexit will cause ( never mind the effect of the pandemic ) but can't admit it so to rationalise you have to believe that the EU - who we would heavily rely on for trade - will collapse. Thats because mutual assured destruction is better than admitting Brexit is fucked up.
Its quite pathetic really - its like a bloke splitting up from his Mrs and shitting bricks coz her new fella might be more handsome, have better prospects, a better job, a better car and make her happier than you ever did. The split only works if her future is no better than yours - if you are going to be miserable she cannot be happy.
Actually - the truth is - as you would know if you had been on this thread more.....Fair enough, I'm not on this thread enough to know, I just commented because as my post says I knew about target 2 which is not widely known about, those 2 videos are worth a watch for a better understanding, stay safe bud.
Sorry - you are not able to understand basics and make no effort to even try
My earlier post was not aimed at you and I see no value in exchanging posts with you.
Hopefully there will be some Remainers coming along who have listened to the clips and analysed the content.....
I look forward to discussing the topic with them.
Meanwhile I hope you enjoy the rest of the weekend
Respect - best post I have seen from you for a good whilewhat you did was a powerpoint lecture to your ex-Mrs showing how you are the best she will ever get ( the sort of thing btw that made her happy you left ) and all the others from their one bedroom flats piled on agreeing with you a bit upset they didn't do the same to their ex.
Off to enjoy the rest of the summer now thanks.
Yes, but probably not for the reason you think.The silence is deafening.
Obviously I can’t speak for everyone, but I suspect it’s for neither of those reasons.I am assuming that it is because either:
a) People have listened to the material and have not understood the inevitable implications for the Eurozone and EU or
b) People have listened to the material and are not able/willing to discuss the inevitable implications for the Eurozone and EU because they cannot be easily brushed off or denied or avoided by throwing out insults
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Going back to the months after the referendum there was a narrative attempted on here by the Remainers that Leavers are 'little Englanders' (which itself demonstrates a lack of understanding) and that Leavers were xenophobes who just wished 'ill' on the EU and hoped for it to collapse
Turning in now - but can I ask you:Obviously I can’t speak for everyone, but I suspect it’s for neither of those reasons.
None of those - the utter truthA generalisation, an exaggeration or a convenient lie
None of those - the utter truth
If @Ric will give me access to the initial Brexit threads I can drown you with examples
I think, and I don’t mean to be rude, that a lot of people just find the tone of your posts to be continuously obnoxious and condescending. I’m sure you feel the same way about those who disagree with you too. That’s the nature of the political forum, I guess. What rankles most, though, is this suggestion that it is all one way. That Brexiteers and Conservatives discuss things in a civil way, but Remainers and Labour voters are somehow far more vitriolic than anyone else and have lowered the tone. It’s either completely disingenuous or entirely misguided, but either way it does you no favours. There are clearly a handful of posters on both sides, and I very much include you in this, whose posts tend to lower the tone of debate. A bit of retrospection on all sides wouldn’t go amiss.Turning in now - but can I ask you:
a) for what reasons then
I think, and I don’t mean to be rude, that a lot of people just find the tone of your posts to be continuously obnoxious and condescending. I’m sure you feel the same way about those who disagree with you too. That’s the nature of the political forum, I guess. What rankles most, though, is this suggestion that it is all one way. That Brexiteers and Conservatives discuss things in a civil way, but Remainers and Labour voters are somehow far more vitriolic than anyone else and have lowered the tone. It’s either completely disingenuous or entirely misguided, but either way it does you no favours. There are clearly a handful of posters on both sides, and I very much include you in this, whose posts tend to lower the tone of debate. A bit of retrospection on all sides wouldn’t go amiss.
Good to hear. It’s a triumph for the human spirit.In fairness @Ric I feel despite what has gone on today he and I have ended the day on good terms.
As a Labour voting remainer, I concur.As a labour voting leaver I think you're all twats.
Or ignore the devastating counters.Most people can't be arsed engaging with 1632. Check his last 2 responses if you want to know why. He wants an echo chamber and will sneer at anyone who counters anything he posts.
As a labour voting leaver I think you're all twats.
c) people haven't watched your videos yet because they have other things to do.I am assuming that it is because either:
a) People have listened to the material and have not understood the inevitable implications for the Eurozone and EU or
b) People have listened to the material and are not able/willing to discuss the inevitable implications for the Eurozone and EU because they cannot be easily brushed off or denied or avoided by throwing out insults
Either way - objective people should be starting to grasp that it is indeed far better for the UK to secure a clean break - even if they are not able to bring themselves to admit that fact openly on the thread
It is not about being right or wrong on a football forum - it is about understanding and wanting what is best for the UK in the medium to long term - in fact even the short term now
It seems that is likely for quite a few posters too big an ask?