COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kaz7]

Y

then it's out of date.

Don't be a dick

 

[BlueAnorak]

Thanks. I’m not arsed about myself, I don’t want my 3yo to get it as he has a hole is an artery and I don’t know how that would play out. It can cause him breathing difficulties, especially in the heat so it’s tricky.

My best wishes to you. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

first time I ever experienced it was the start of coronavirus. 4 sleepless nights. One of the worst things I’ve experienced

You'd never in your life, been anxious prior to that ?

 

[BlueHammer85]

You'd never in your life, been anxious prior to that ?

Always had anxiety but that was a whole new different level and I honestly think I can relate to someone having real anxiety now.Didn’t think about it before.
my whole mentality and way of thinking was completely skewed - never a experience I ever want to go through again.

 

[davek1808]

Thanks. I’m not arsed about myself, I don’t want my 3yo to get it as he has a hole is an artery and I don’t know how that would play out. It can cause him breathing difficulties, especially in the heat so it’s tricky.

Don't take any chances fella if you're temperature starts to climb and breathing becomes difficult seek medical advice.

 

[kaz7]

Anxiety isn't a mental illness. It's a natural response to uncertainty.

Normal levels of anxiety is fine ,uncontrolled anxiety is not,when I first had it I would wake up shaking from head to foot,couldn't get out of bed,open the door,open the post,answer the phone ,watch anything on tv ,any of those things were insurmountable ,in the end I knew I would kill me if I didn't reach out so I called the surgery and my Dr came round and I was put on treatment,still on treatment but even so about a month ago I was so anxious i lay in bed with the sheet over my head awake but too scared to move a muscle for about seven hours,that is mental illness,i wish those who haven't suffered would not brush it off as nothing

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Always had anxiety but that was a whole new different level and I honestly think I can relate to someone having real anxiety now.Didn’t think about it before.
my whole mentality and way of thinking was completely skewed - never a experience I ever want to go through again.

You need to get to that point again and again to understand what it is and how to control it.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Normal levels of anxiety is fine ,uncontrolled anxiety is not,when I first had it I would wake up shaking from head to foot,couldn't get out of bed,open the door,open the post,answer the phone ,watch anything on tv ,any of those things were insurmountable ,in the end I knew I would kill me if I didn't reach out so I called the surgery and my Dr came round and I was put on treatment,still on treatment but even so about a month ago I was so anxious i lay in bed with the sheet over my head awake but too scared to move a muscle for about seven hours,that is mental illness,i wish those who haven't suffered would not brush it off as nothing

He’s right though. Anxiety (the condition) is a physical health problem, not mental.

“Feeling” anxious is a layman term that isn’t actually a ‘thing’. It’s just a word we attach to feeling worried about something. Having an anxiety condition is physical.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

He’s right though. Anxiety (the condition) is a physical health problem, not mental.

“Feeling” anxious is a layman term that isn’t actually a ‘thing’. It’s just a word we attach to feeling worried about something. Having an anxiety condition is physical.

Kaz is referring to a mental health issue ie anxiety disorder. Completely different.

 

[BlueHammer85]

You need to get to that point again and again to understand what it is and how to control it.

It’s not something you can just bring on though ?

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Kaz is referring to a mental health issue ie anxiety disorder. Completely different.

No. it's exactly the same.
The "treatment" is CBT and it is just talking.
The treatment basically teaches the patient to be rational which in turn prevents the physical manifestation of the body's fight or flight instinct.
It's the sort of behavioural response that used to be learned in infant hood before kids were wrapped in cotton wool.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

It’s not something you can just bring on though ?

Yes you can, by deliberately putting yourself in stressful mental or physical circumstances.

 

[west didsblue]

45% of deaths in Scotand are in care homes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...homes-death-toll-likely-significantly-higher/

21% of deaths in England are in Care Homes.
25% of deaths in Wales are in Care Homes.
37% average in the EU (66% in Spain)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...care-homes-than-european-states-idUSKBN22V1VI

Incidently in Canada its 81%
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...494ad4-947f-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html

Slightly higher overall death rate per in Scotland (9.5%) than in England (8.2%) from cases in hospital and care home. I Cant find the figure quickly for Wales.

Don't get me wrong some big fucking mistakes have been made. But the same mistakes are being made everywhere in the west.

I was basing my comment on the official figures but if the underreporting in care homes in Scotland is as much as suspected that changes it significantly as you’ve pointed out.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Always had anxiety but that was a whole new different level and I honestly think I can relate to someone having real anxiety now.Didn’t think about it before.
my whole mentality and way of thinking was completely skewed - never a experience I ever want to go through again.

That's a fear of the unknown. It made you anxious. You've dealt with it and moved on.
Mental illnesses can't be tidied up in that fashion.

 

[Corky]

Anxiety isn't a mental illness. It's a natural response to uncertainty.

If the subject has it all the time as described it informally is, just like stress, people are off work sick with them both.

 

[kaz7]

He’s right though. Anxiety (the condition) is a physical health problem, not mental.

“Feeling” anxious is a layman term that isn’t actually a ‘thing’. It’s just a word we attach to feeling worried about something. Having an anxiety condition is physical.

It really isn't ,the shaking is the body but it driven by the mind,out of control anxiety is the mind unable to be rational,it is not rational to not be able to do any of the things I posted

 

[kaz7]

No. it's exactly the same.
The "treatment" is CBT and it is just talking.
The treatment basically teaches the patient to be rational which in turn prevents the physical manifestation of the body's fight or flight instinct.
It's the sort of behavioural response that used to be learned in infant hood before kids were wrapped in cotton wool.

I saw a shrink for over a year,you cannot apply your usual science to an emotional problem
I am out as I will get really pissed off with people who have never had it and can tell me they know better

 

[Gelsons Dad]

I saw a shrink for over a year,you cannot apply your usual science to an emotional problem
I am out as I will get really pissed off with people who have never had it and can tell me they know better

did your "shrink" have it?

 

[Saddleworth2]

I'd never had any health problems, always thought I was invincible, never even been to the doctor until one day a couple of years back..... I was a bit dizzy at work and so went for a walk, the thinking about the reason for the dizziness got my heart racing which made me worse and then I had a full blown panic attack. There was pain up my arm, tunnel vision, pain in the chest area, couldn't breathe etc... I got back to the office, made my excuses and then drove myself to A&E thinking I was having a heart attack....... Turned out it wasn't a heart attack (at age 28!) obviously.

After that day I had a good few months of health worrying and the constant adrenaline in your system wipes you out. On some days I could barely lift my arms and my stomach went completely to pot with indigestion, cramps and then I started worrying about that.. At night, even the thought of not being able to sleep triggered my heart racing, sweating etc and I had plenty of sleepless nights.

Anxiety is 100% just a self-defeating cycle of worry that is triggered by something and it can floor you. Honestly I was one of those people who'd be saying you just need to be thicker skinned etc a few years ago... It honestly isn't true, it can be triggered for anyone.

For me it took 6 months to really calm it down and the physical symptoms went away. The only cure was accepting that anxiety was the real cause of all of my problems.

thanks for sharing that. I’m sure a lot on here will recognise those symptoms. Glad you were able to get on top of it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Apparently Tom Moore (Hon Colonel) is to become Sir Tom.