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True_Blue69 said:
I'm assuming this (possibly) incredibly positive news has been posted and celebrated but if not here you go.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-public-health-england-covid-19-a9523876.html

Couple of things that don't seem right though, it says 200k a day at the peak in London and the total for the UK is reported as 250k. Also says there was a glitch on the 16th that may have impacted the numbers.
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I'm amazed the Independent published that with their political views.
 
Eds said:
What a strange piece of journalism. We probably all accept that there are more cases than have been recorded but 200k per day in London! How many in Manchester or Birmingham etc and how many people would that make have had the virus already. I do wonder though who are the people catching it now and where in the country are they? Is the virus becoming less prevalent or not?
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If only we had something like a system that could track and trace different regions. You could call it ¨Track and Trace"even. I wonder if other countries have thought of this - if not, we could really be on to something here.
 
peace frog said:
could you please explain why they (who?)want to destroy the livelihoods of millions of Britons

WHY ?
WHO ?
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I haven't suggested such a thing and that's not even the point. I'll try and explain what I meant.

Start by looking at the sheer disaster surrounding the tens of thousands of care home deaths across the world. 70% in Sweden, 40-50% is the European average. Seeding the virus into care homes via dumping patients, ambulances not attending to the elderly in care homes, doctors refusing to give treatment to sick people in care homes, people being pressed to sign 'do not resuscitate' forms, coronavirus diagnosis being made based on an assumption (regardless if it was covid19 strain or not) rather than through scientific verification. This is all publicly available information - most of which i got listening to specialists talking on Radio 4 but was also being talked about in the House of Commons yesterday.

Without the scandalous amount of care home deaths being attributed to the virus the number collapses. Care homes have turned out to be the most dangerous places to be during the pandemic, second only to hospitals, when they should have been the safest. The failure in duty of care is monumental.

Then we get to widespread misdiagnosis of covid19 - including massive falsification of the numbers. We were told to trust the science, even when science is dispensed with when recording death certificates. Assumptions work fine during a pandemic, right? Just tick a box on a form, don't bother with a post-mortem or blood analysis. Someone dies of a cardiac arrest, they look for coronavirus, and, Bingo, they are added to the stats. This is truly shocking behaviour.

Then there has been widespread mistreatment in hospitals all over the world, chiefly the misuse of ventilators, that has resulted in many, many deaths. They get listed as covid deaths even when they are not. Once these numbers are filtered out we will likely get closer to 60-70% of the reported numbers. A third of all covid19 deaths in hospital are people with diabetes. From the other two thirds to die in hospital what proportion died with one, two, three or more underlying health issues? A very large portion. Most of the population cannot be classed as vulnerable and sick yet are under quarantine, despite the number of infected being assessed at less than 0.3% of the population.

Without such numbers added to the data we will be getting extremely close to average annual numbers of deaths. However, now data is emerging regarding the great number of operations, treatment, surgeries that have all been cancelled and put back to some indefinite time in the future. Which will be far too late for many thousands of people. How about all those people who suffered by not going to hospital through fear of getting infected there or putting pressure on the NHS? A&E recorded the lowest number of inpatients in history.

The so-called 'cure' or remedy is now responsible for a horrific number of people dying unnecessarily, people suffering stress, mental health problems, suicide even, businesses going to the wall, job losses, bankruptcy. Really? This is how you deal with a virus, by doing these things to people?

In the face of any epidemic/pandemic the most vulnerable should be the first to be protected. That is my area of concern. We have seen an epic failure of government, probably on the biggest scale in our history.

Almost everything I have written above was taken from listening to BBC Radio 4 over the last 1-2 months, it's pretty much my only source of mainstream information. Not off some tin-foil hat conspiracy sites.

Don't take my word for it. Do your own research. All this information will become common knowledge before too long.
 
mat said:
Miles of cunts queuing for their nugs as Maccy D's is obviously essential....
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I dont understand these people. The minute I see a queue thats going to be more than five minutes... "bollocks to that I wont bother" is the usual outcome. The only exeptions being when there is no choice such as at the airport etc. Other than that I have better things to do than queue with a load of cunts.
 
purplenose said:
I dont understand these people. The minute I see a queue thats going to be more than five minutes... "bollocks to that I wont bother" is the usual outcome. The only exeptions being when there is no choice such as at the airport etc. Other than that I have better things to do than queue with a load of cunts.
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You don¨t have a pint at the match I take it?!?
 
purplenose said:
I dont understand these people. The minute I see a queue thats going to be more than five minutes... "bollocks to that I wont bother" is the usual outcome. The only exeptions being when there is no choice such as at the airport etc. Other than that I have better things to do than queue with a load of cunts.
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Same here, football and the airport was the only thing I queued for. Now I have to queue to buy food in a supermarket, then when I get inside nobody distances anyway. Annoying.
 
johnnytapia said:
If only we had something like a system that could track and trace different regions. You could call it ¨Track and Trace"even. I wonder if other countries have thought of this - if not, we could really be on to something here.
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Genius idea. The simple easy things are often the best:-)
 
paulchapo said:
Same here, football and the airport was the only thing I queued for. Now I have to queue to buy food in a supermarket, then when I get inside nobody distances anyway. Annoying.
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It might be annoying, but the queuing is to limit numbers in shops, which helps with distancing, if they let everyone in at once then there is no chance of any at all. I've changed supermarkets as a result, to one that is allowing a sensible number in, Tesco's aren't allowing sensible numbers in, they are creating a queue, but the numbers inside are ridiculous, I've tried 2 different ones, but too many inside, and many acting like twats too, so they've lost my custom.
 
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