Summer Transfers

Stones is signing a new contract. Zin and Gundo are going nowhere and Otamendi is quite happy to sit tight and run his deal down next year and then move back to Spain or Argentina.

The transfer window is so tight this year, makes outgoings for us extremely problematic.

Funny is it not but while on the pitch Zincy Gundo and Ota actually played quite well for their ability this season, but i do think Zincy will be put up for sale again i can see a lot of German clubs liking what they see, Gundo it will be his choice but Italians love a aging quality bargain, and Ota i think we will pay him off as it is easy to find a cheaper, better, English, long term back up for laporte
 
Wouldn’t so much say liability’s but they are defiantly the weaknesses in our squad which have been exploited time and time again with the defenders in that list . gundogan is a very good holding midfielder on his own there but we have rodri who will play there so wouldn’t bother me if he went, Would love stones to reach his potential because he has all the talent, but the lad has too much going on in his personal life which has distracted him , I just feel he can be weak and there’s always a mistake in him . If stones and otamendi are playing in a back 3 next season we will struggle for top 4. We’re are 22 points behind Liverpool, As much as I hate saying it ,there back 4 is miles better than ours they have the 2 best full backs in the league , best cb and tbh there back ups gomes and matip are just as good as ota and stones . Our whole back line apart from Laporte needs serious investment to get close to the scousers 22 points is massive and A massive overhaul is needed and if them names above stay I kind of agree , might aswell forget next season !

Finally some sense here!! I agree with every word.

We need to improve now, not in 5 years. Like you said Liverpool’s defense is very very strong. Their back 4 is one of the best in the world. Even Gomez is a top top prospect.

We need major improvements if we want to catch them, not stick with a declining Otamendi and unreliable Stones.

I just don’t understand why we don’t go for Koulibaly.

Even worse when I see Liverpool linked with him. That would be a disaster for us. The league would be over immediately with that signing.

Koulibaly is world class and even outshined Van Dijk last time they played. He has absolutely everything, pace, strength, great on the ball. He’s in his prime and still has years left. He speaks French like Laporte and would be the perfect partner for him.

I know we usually target younger players but sometimes a change is needed. Yes he’s expensive but he’s worth it. If we only signed him this summer I would be ecstatic.

Koulibaly would have a Van Dijk like impact on us and we would be true favorites for the Champions League not just favorites with the bookies like every year.
 
I have heard we are going gong ho for defenders and rightly so we have to. As much i trust our directors they are not so much successful buying defenders even back during the days of barcelona. We have spend so much on Mangala, Cancelo, Danilo, Stones, even Mendy who gave us very very less return. Walker is a good signing. So to reduce the risk i think we should go for premier league proven defenders.
I was devastated that we let Van dijk go but fair enough for us we got laporte. I was also not happy seing Harry Maguire go United. Now we dont have decent defenders in lower teams who can come straight in our starting eleven. Stones and otamendy are not reliable. Neither is Cancelo. At least 2 CB and one full back is needed.
 
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Dream In:

Aouar
Oyazerabel
Dias
The young french left back

Out:
Otamendi
Zinchenko
Silva
Sane

Reality:
Sane and David going. Otamendi sitting on his contract and City just going ahead with our current CBs. And not replacing Sane.
And if we do this, I can’t see anything other than second place at best next year because that’s a serious downgrade on our title winning seasons.
 
Finally some sense here!! I agree with every word.

We need to improve now, not in 5 years. Like you said Liverpool’s defense is very very strong. Their back 4 is one of the best in the world. Even Gomez is a top top prospect.

We need major improvements if we want to catch them, not stick with a declining Otamendi and unreliable Stones.

I just don’t understand why we don’t go for Koulibaly.

Even worse when I see Liverpool linked with him. That would be a disaster for us. The league would be over immediately with that signing.

Koulibaly is world class and even outshined Van Dijk last time they played. He has absolutely everything, pace, strength, great on the ball. He’s in his prime and still has years left. He speaks French like Laporte and would be the perfect partner for him.

I know we usually target younger players but sometimes a change is needed. Yes he’s expensive but he’s worth it. If we only signed him this summer I would be ecstatic.

Koulibaly would have a Van Dijk like impact on us and we would be true favorites for the Champions League not just favorites with the bookies like every year.
Sorry your second paragraph is cobblers liverpool do not play with a back 4, they have no midfield, perhaps you aught to check out goals conceded per game in all comps last season and this compared to liverpools, but just as important name this back 4 world beaters?
Our poor season is down to 4 first team players ( depending on who you think is a first team player ) out injured in every game this season, of course we need to improve but we have 1 first team player leaving Sane and we will replace him, it is improving the quality of our b team to a point they challenge the a team we will do this summer
 
Finally some sense here!! I agree with every word.

We need to improve now, not in 5 years. Like you said Liverpool’s defense is very very strong. Their back 4 is one of the best in the world. Even Gomez is a top top prospect.

We need major improvements if we want to catch them, not stick with a declining Otamendi and unreliable Stones.

I just don’t understand why we don’t go for Koulibaly.

Even worse when I see Liverpool linked with him. That would be a disaster for us. The league would be over immediately with that signing.

Koulibaly is world class and even outshined Van Dijk last time they played. He has absolutely everything, pace, strength, great on the ball. He’s in his prime and still has years left. He speaks French like Laporte and would be the perfect partner for him.

I know we usually target younger players but sometimes a change is needed. Yes he’s expensive but he’s worth it. If we only signed him this summer I would be ecstatic.

Koulibaly would have a Van Dijk like impact on us and we would be true favorites for the Champions League not just favorites with the bookies like every year.
Koulibaly won't be signing because there's no chance of a decent resale value if things don't work out. The Mahrez signing was a little strange deviation from the norm in that respect from us but even he was a little younger than Koulibaly.
 
Koulibaly won't be signing because there's no chance of a decent resale value if things don't work out. The Mahrez signing was a little strange deviation from the norm in that respect from us but even he was a little younger than Koulibaly.

When did we ever buy a player for resale value??

Anyway, it would be a surprise if signing one of the best players in the world in his position wouldn’t work out.
 
Sorry your second paragraph is cobblers liverpool do not play with a back 4, they have no midfield, perhaps you aught to check out goals conceded per game in all comps last season and this compared to liverpools, but just as important name this back 4 world beaters?
Our poor season is down to 4 first team players ( depending on who you think is a first team player ) out injured in every game this season, of course we need to improve but we have 1 first team player leaving Sane and we will replace him, it is improving the quality of our b team to a point they challenge the a team we will do this summer

No midfield ? So whats Fabinho milner Henderson ? Not world beaters ? Whats Van Dijk Robertson Trent ? Are you saying they dont play 4 at the back ?
 
No midfield ? So whats Fabinho milner Henderson ? Not world beaters ? Whats Van Dijk Robertson Trent ? Are you saying they dont play 4 at the back ?
They are all defensive / defensively minded Midfielders. They never play with oxlade and Keita together.
 
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No midfield ? So whats Fabinho milner Henderson ? Not world beaters ? Whats Van Dijk Robertson Trent ? Are you saying they dont play 4 at the back ?
What are Fabinho,Milner and Henderson? cover for when Van Dijk, Robertson and Trent make mistakes, hence the reason the attack scores ALL the goals and the defense create ALL the goals, i do not rate Robertson or Trent as particularly good defenders Van Dijk i have always rated since his Groningen days, but just who is the 4th member of this world class defense?
 
My choice for best improvement in the team
Upamecano 21 L/RCB
Camavinga 17 DM
Dembele 23 L/RW
For me these are the main signings and main costs
Best improvements for the squad
Rodon 22 L/RCB
Tsimikas 24 LB
Doku 18 L/RW
Isak 20 ST/W
not the most expensive but will challenge the first team
 
A lot of questions right now very confusing seems like contradictory supposed ITK and a lot of other people raising some very good point some of which are also contradictory.

Goalkeeping situation, Bravo will surely leave. Carsons loan will end and Steffan i doubt will sit on the bench and all players are now reduced in value Muric is the same so i would expect us to need to look for two new goalkeepers loan Steffan out and perhaps loan Muric out again

Seems illogical on the one hand to get rid of Cancelo for Semedo given how little time we have Cancelo and the costs involved but it seems a very real possibility what else explains the lack of games for Cancelo ?

We need a back up Left CB no idea who Garcia ?

Right CB is a strange one, We have Fernandinho, Stones, Otamendi, Sandler, Adarabioyo, Garcia, and Harwod bellis Which is too many and also its not clear where we are in the right place in terms of age of Fernandinho and Otamendi quality in terms of Sandler and Adrabioyo and big question is what up with Stones ? Is he mentally up to it in general or is it temporary due to off field issues ? Are fans being over critical ? Seems to have had a lot of stick considering he has not played a lot. Is it injuries ?

I would like Otamendi to leave for Argentina I would like to keep Stones and prove people wrong and I would like Sandler and Adarabioyo to make it if not this year next but it seems to late for both of them.Too old to improve a lot not old enough to hang around Adarabioyo only has a year left on his contract. We wont get what we want for either of them this year. Maybe Adarabioyo can replace Fernandinho next year. Would we loan Harwood Bellis ? who would be the right club ?

Has anyone seen much of Adarabioyo or Sandler ?

Left back is confusing I was a big fan of Zinchenko when my dad was not so sure and I would like to see him in the middle but did not look as good this year as last and does not get forward enough for me and Angelino looks great at RB and showed glimpses of it here but never really got a chance must be a reason. Somehow do not expect either of them here next year but according to tolmie Zinchenko will sign a new deal but I would like someone who gets forward more if Angelino goes which seems certain do we need another left back ? Has Mendy recovered properly ? will constantly get injured ?

Sane will probably go not really sure who we would go for only real option seems to be Oyarzabal

Would love Aouar but then that leaves us possibly having to get rid of Gundogan but that seems unlikely.
 
What are Fabinho,Milner and Henderson? cover for when Van Dijk, Robertson and Trent make mistakes, hence the reason the attack scores ALL the goals and the defense create ALL the goals, i do not rate Robertson or Trent as particularly good defenders Van Dijk i have always rated since his Groningen days, but just who is the 4th member of this world class defense?

What do you mean what are Fabinho, milner, Henderson ? Clearly midfielders what else ? Whats your point ?

If they do not have a world class defence who does ? Does a world class defence have to have a world class defender in every position ? Who are the better full backs in this league or anywhere than Robertson or Trent ? Who are the better CB than Van Dijk ? They do not want there full backs to defend so much as supply crosses not that they cannot defend
 
Thats IF we win in court - there will be a lot of underhand dealings and I dont trust UEFA one bit - the innocent aren't always found innocent and the guilty often get away with it

I wonder what the contingency is IF we dont win - that is worrying

maybe buying all these youngsters and transition to academy players ezzy is talking about is a hint.
 
The same.

Was beginning to be taken in by him but then the Semedo stuff...

Yeah - he always carried the air of an overexcited teenager who’d lost hold of his grip on the difference between computer games and real life - but to give him his due, he was more coherent than most of the kids who turn up on here posting excitable rubbish during the summer holidays.

And then unfortunately he took his eye off the ball for a brief moment and got completely carried away with himself over all the Cancelo stuff - falling into the trap of forgetting what he’d made up during his last post on the subject, and blew his cover completely.

Shame - he seemed a nice kid
 

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