COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Viruses arrive, spread rapidly, finish off a lot of frail and elderly people, then disappear as the population acquires immunity. I see no reason to believe this one will be any different.
Puttimg aside the issue that many viruses e.g. Ebola are not too fussy about you having to ve old or frail, the actual details of how we get from step A to step Z are rather important.

Will this take months or years or many, many years ? Will hundreds of thousands have died? Or millions? Will the economy be completely trashed for years or will it quickly recover?

Your implied "don't worry it will go away eventually" is not exactly reassuring.

And just to add, viruses don't usually go away due to herd immunity. Colds or flu never did, nor Ebola nor HIV. In fact the only one I can think of where herd immunity killed it off is smallpox and that was herd immunity entirely through vaccination. We never developed natural herd immunity to smallpox. I struggle to think of any viruses where humans naturally developed herd immunity. I guess there may be some?
 
When it's reliable I'm sure it will be, but its pointless having a test that could be wrong, and since it doesn't prove immunity anyway, it could encourage more cummings and goings because people feel safer knowing they've had it.

{I'll get my coat}

That fucking dreadful....

Mods take this man out and shoot him......oh wait a minute....
 
Puttimg aside the issue that many viruses e.g. Ebola are not too fussy about you having to ve old or frail, the actual details of how we get from step A to step Z are rather important.

Will this take months or years or many, many years ? Will hundreds of thousands have died? Or millions? Will the economy be completely trashed for years or will it quickly recover?

Your implied "don't worry it will go away eventually" is not exactly reassuring.

And just to add, viruses don't usually go away due to herd immunity. Colds or flu never did, nor Ebola nor HIV. In fact the only one I can think of where herd immunity killed it off is smallpox and that was herd immunity entirely through vaccination. We never developed natural herd immunity to smallpox. I struggle to think of any viruses where humans naturally developed herd immunity. I guess there may be some?

Covid-19 is here to stay.

What we will do is learn to live with the fact that thousands will die from the pneumonia that sadly develops for the unlucky ones.
 
Covid-19 is here to stay.

What we will do is learn to live with the fact that thousands will die from the pneumonia that sadly develops for the unlucky ones.
With treatments available that will lessen the numbers who die from the pneumonia element.
 
With treatments available that will lessen the numbers who die from the pneumonia element.

Hopefully mate. We have all lost elderly relatives and in my case it's always been 0neumonia in the end in top of existing conditions, strokes, cancer, COPD that has finally overcome them.

Medicine just can't save those people.
 
After sadly losing seven residents to Covid, it appears that my wifes place is now clear. They had two residents recover, in house, after testing positive. The rest of the residents have now tested negative. They had four members of staff off positive, at one time who'd contracted it in the home. All safely returned to duties and all carers and staff have now received negative test results.
It's amazing how they've managed to contain it. My wife is convinced some this is partly down to having a cleaner with OCD!
It's been a superb team effort and although there's still much work to be done, they should all feel rightly proud of their mindful and focused approach, towards the safety of those in their care.
 
Hopefully mate. We have all lost elderly relatives and in my case it's always been 0neumonia in the end in top of existing conditions, strokes, cancer, COPD that has finally overcome them.

Medicine just can't save those people.
That’s always going to be the case, but we have poured bigger resources into this worldwide than ever before which should help us understand these causes of death like flu, pneumonia now covid that cause death in those with other conditions better. Just the trials in different treatment with existing drugs will lead to new methods, any new drugs would be a bonus. Even ICU teams have learnt new techniques from this experience the BBC reporting yesterday that survival rates of ventilated patients have gone up from ,if I remember about 35% to over 50%, less are also going onto ventilation now because of earlier intervention using CPAP machines.
 
After sadly losing seven residents to Covid, it appears that my wifes place is now clear. They had two residents recover, in house, after testing positive. The rest of the residents have now tested negative. They had four members of staff off positive, at one time who'd contracted it in the home. All safely returned to duties and all carers and staff have now received negative test results.
It's amazing how they've managed to contain it. My wife is convinced some this is partly down to having a cleaner with OCD!
It's been a superb team effort and although there's still much work to be done, they should all feel rightly proud of their mindful and focused approach, towards the safety of those in their care.

Great to read the good news.
 
Covid-19 is here to stay.

What we will do is learn to live with the fact that thousands will die from the pneumonia that sadly develops for the unlucky ones.

Can't see it mate Oxford Uni already saying they might not have enough time to get the virus out there as it's dying out. Personally think it will follow the path of other types of coronavirus and at worst come back in winter then not be seen in this form again.
 
Can't see it mate Oxford Uni already saying they might not have enough time to get the virus out there as it's dying out. Personally think it will follow the path of other types of coronavirus and at worst come back in winter then not be seen in this form again.

what other Coronavirus’s have done that? What others have just burned themselves out naturally?

gloabally this seems to speeding up not slowing down.
 
Can't see it mate Oxford Uni already saying they might not have enough time to get the virus out there as it's dying out. Personally think it will follow the path of other types of coronavirus and at worst come back in winter then not be seen in this form again.

Hope you're right fella
 
what other Coronavirus’s have done that? What others have just burned themselves out naturally?

gloabally this seems to speeding up not slowing down.

Every other coronavirus there had been, most recently SARS and MERS.

Every county is following the same pattern of peak after around 6-8 weeks and then dip regardless of lockdown. Only reason it's increasing globally is due to the timeline when countries first got it.
 
Every other coronavirus there had been, most recently SARS and MERS.

Every county is following the same pattern of peak after around 6-8 weeks and then dip regardless of lockdown. Only reason it's increasing globally is due to the timeline when countries first got it.

SARS was contained and eliminated. It wasn’t a natural burn out.

MERS is still about and running but human to human transmission is not easy for it.
 
Every other coronavirus there had been, most recently SARS and MERS.

Every county is following the same pattern of peak after around 6-8 weeks and then dip regardless of lockdown. Only reason it's increasing globally is due to the timeline when countries first got it.

Germany got their first deaths at about the same time as us IIRC but managed the threat much better.
 
Just been to B&Q for a bulb, needless to say I will be sitting in the dark for the foreseeable. It was like alton fucking towers. Queue zipzaging and trailing off into the distance. Fuck knows how this is going to work when all the shops are open. It will take 8 hours to browse 3 shops.
 
Every other coronavirus there had been, most recently SARS and MERS.

Every county is following the same pattern of peak after around 6-8 weeks and then dip regardless of lockdown. Only reason it's increasing globally is due to the timeline when countries first got it.

You could only compare infection in different countries if you knew the true infection number,
if the testing numbers were sufficient and comparable
and if you had 1 country with strict measures and 1 with no measures at all.

Any single country on the planet had many different measures, even Sweden.

Imagine you're a virus.
Why should you stop doing your job in a 8bn population of hosts after having infected let's very generously say 20%? Because you are a lazy fecker? Or you'd have enough? Exhausted?

It's exactly the change in human behaviour that stops viruses spread
or a lack of new hosts.

Do you think herd immunity is reached after 6-8 weeks?
 
Every other coronavirus there had been, most recently SARS and MERS.

Every county is following the same pattern of peak after around 6-8 weeks and then dip regardless of lockdown. Only reason it's increasing globally is due to the timeline when countries first got it.
This is utter bollocks!
 
After sadly losing seven residents to Covid, it appears that my wifes place is now clear. They had two residents recover, in house, after testing positive. The rest of the residents have now tested negative. They had four members of staff off positive, at one time who'd contracted it in the home. All safely returned to duties and all carers and staff have now received negative test results.
It's amazing how they've managed to contain it. My wife is convinced some this is partly down to having a cleaner with OCD!
It's been a superb team effort and although there's still much work to be done, they should all feel rightly proud of their mindful and focused approach, towards the safety of those in their care.
That’s a fantastic piece of good news, we don’t hear enough stories of this nature.
 
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