COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[twosips]

Twas said in jest mate.

Do try and keep up.

Sorry. Head is gone today.

 

[Mon Autre]

Not surprising at all given the UK population density, and the prevalence of Covid-19 risk factors in UK society (Obesity, Diabetes, Dementia and High Blood Pressure). Add to this a government science establishment with zero common sence and total arrogance (with respect to face coverings and previous far east epidemics) as well as a top down command beuauracracy in health and civil administration that couldn't be tactically nimble in a billion years and you get where we are.
Still we did better than other countries in terms of coronavirus in care homes so that's one small mercy.
It wouldn't matter who was on the bridge.
The only thing that could have been done better is bringing in social distancing and lockdown earlier and you need 20/20 hindsight for that or be called @Chippy_boy

All of those risk factors aren't unique the UK and they certainly don't explain the number of excess deaths we've had.

As for care homes, small mercies? What has happened in them is a national disgrace.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Sorry. Head is gone today.

Get some sun mate, always sorts my nut out.

 

[Claytop]

Sorry. Head is gone today.

It’s not even lunchtime yet!

 

[Mon Autre]

And it's because of attitudes like that, that lockdown for most will last longer and people like you will moan how your liberties are being curtailed and the government is useless. If Cummings had said put your head in the oven to kill off the virus would you have followed his advice?

I agree it's massively frustrating when people respond by refusing to follow rules but telling them they're dicks for doing that doesn't help the people that will suffer as a result of other people acting selfish. The government was told people would react in this way if they undermined their own advice to protect Cummings. The government did it anyway because protecting Cummings was more important than protecting lives.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I Cant see anyone following our governments guidance anymore. Why should they? They don't follow it either.

Thats such a childish attitude to be honest.

 

[ganganvince]

If the spread becomes very severe countries will have to self isolate and the UK will have an advantage as an island nation with a beefed up border force and natural frontiers. Dr Strangelove will be pleased....

If only

 

[jonmcity]

Thats such a childish attitude to be honest.

Yes it is childish but you cannot expect people to comply with rules made up by people who ignore them.

 

[BlueAnorak]

This only confuses things further, frustratingly. Does it not rule out the idea that most were just beating it via other methods such as t-cells?

No. There are many who get it but don't ot barely develop symptoms. They aren't covered in that survey. It they didn't or barely got ill it would suggest that Covid-19 specific B & T lymphocytes didn't have to be produced to beat the virus.

 

[twosips]

It’s not even lunchtime yet!

Its usually gone by the time I've finished my cereal these days tbh.

 

[ganganvince]

Yes it is childish but you cannot expect people to comply with rules made up by people who ignore them.

As long as you accept the consequences and don't blame everyone else when you infect someone dear to you.

 

[Mon Autre]

Thats such a childish attitude to be honest.

Whether you think it's childish or not is irrelevant. It's how humans react when things like this happen. It's why the advice of behavioural scientists is so important at times like this. The goverment has to take action and communicate it in such a way that it gets buy in from people and protects as many lives as possible. They have ignored that advice and they are therefore failing to protect people.

 

[jonmcity]

As long as you accept the consequences and don't blame everyone else when you infect someone dear to you.

I will maintain to social distance myself from others, as i have done so throughout this pandemic. The government has no authority left however, and people will do what ever they see fit going forward.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Whether you think it's childish or not is irrelevant. It's how humans react when things like this happen.

Personally that's not the attitude I've taken. Maybe related to intelligence and ability to think logically/with empathy.

 

[Mon Autre]

Personally that's not the attitude I've taken. Maybe related to intelligence and ability to think logically/with empathy.

It's not the attitude I've taken either. But it's the attitude many others have and it's something that was foreseen and warned against. If it makes you feel happy to simply be smug about how much cleverer you are than others then fine, but that doesn't protect vulnerable people from the actions of those less empathic or intelligent than you. It doesn't protect the essential workers who don't get a choice whether or not they stay home to keep themselves safe from the behaviour of those that have decided lockdown is over. The government was advised on how to keep people on message but it decided saving Dominic Cummings was more important.

 

[hgblue]

No. There are many who get it but don't ot barely develop symptoms. They aren't covered in that survey. It they didn't or barely got ill it would suggest that Covid-19 specific B & T lymphocytes didn't have to be produced to beat the virus.

I’m amazed we’re not testing to find asymptomatic individuals and then testing them again a few weeks later to see if they’ve developed antibodies. If they are not showing up in antibody testing surveys our estimates of the spread of the virus are out by a massive factor.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Any form of government control ended when they did not sack turtle head.

Thank you for those words of wisdom. Let's hope that you nor your friends and family catch this virus due to some other selfish twat having the same attitude as you.

 

[Mon Autre]

I’m amazed we’re not testing to find asymptomatic individuals and then testing them again a few weeks later to see if they’ve developed antibodies. If they are not showing up in antibody testing surveys our estimates of the spread of the virus are out by a massive factor.

Are you really amazed we're not doing that though? Has been clear for some time now that the testing structure wasn't being grown in an effective or scalable way. It was being grown to hit a numbers target rather than serve a purpose. When they were emailing conservative party members weeks ago offering tests out willy nilly it was plain to see it was more about big numbers than a clever strategy.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

If it makes you feel happy to simply be smug about how much cleverer you are than others then fine, but that doesn't protect vulnerable people from the actions of those less empathic or intelligent than you.

It's more the fact I felt the need to clarify, as you make a blanket claim of 'it's how humans react'. It's how some might react, not all of us.

Some of us do actually have empathy and care for others.

 

[Mon Autre]

It's more the fact I felt the need to clarify, as you make a blanket claim of 'it's how humans react'. It's how some might react, not all of us.

Some of us do actually have empathy and care for others.

Well I didn't say "all humans" anyway, so I'm not sure why you took it so personally. But as far as behavioural science goes, you have to look at the bigger picture and how humans behave on the whole when managing a response to these things. Saying "well those people who choose to act that way are just selfish" doesn't comfort me one bit. Patterns of behaviour are predictable and can be managed. The government has been given advice on how to manage behaviour which in turn will save lives. They trashed that advice.