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It is just the truth - you wouldn't understand
Just to say Spellchecker changed humouring you to honouring you.

Interesting it was a pub survey. I don't think even Ashcroft tried to do a survey on the impact of alcohol on Brexit views.
 
Just to say Spellchecker changed humouring you to honouring you.

Interesting it was a pub survey. I don't think even Ashcroft tried to do a survey on the impact of alcohol on Brexit views.
Hey - what can I say - I go to the pub a lot

TBF there was a clue at the start of my earlier post - you know - where I say..... about meeting people in the pub after work.

Normally 4-6 pm. Now - let's see if you can do that analysis? It is hardly Sherlock Holmes level stuff.
 
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She's the wife / partner of Mark - the Chippy

Lovely couple, used to be my neighbours before I moved a mile away in 2007

The two families go on holiday each year. Tracey is actually as much of a mate as Mark - whilst Mark and I are big Cider drinkers, Tracey shares my taste in music - especially Meatloaf and hit Indian food. Happy to fill in more details if that helps.

The first Mel is similar with Wayne

It is this modern world.

I am sure many years ago - back in my Lower Broughton days - Tracey would have been home cooking Mark 's dinner

' Times - they are a changing... '

Cider and Meat Loaf. I knew you were a wrong ‘un and that proves it
 
Hey - what can I say - I go to the pub a lot

TBF there was a clue at the start of my earlier post - you know - where I say..... about meeting people in the pub after work.

Normally 4-6 pm. Now - let's see if you can do that analysis? It is hardly Sherlock Holmes level stuff.

I have no idea what I'm meant to be analysing (I take it you mean not in the psychological sense) but hmmm, Watson, how many people in Wokingham finish work and have time to be a pub by 6pm? Or do they have people to do the work for them?
 
Tracey shares my taste in music - especially Meatloaf

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She's the wife / partner of Mark - the Chippy

Lovely couple, used to be my neighbours before I moved a mile away in 2007

The two families go on holiday each year. Tracey is actually as much of a mate as Mark - whilst Mark and I are big Cider drinkers, Tracey shares my taste in music - especially Meatloaf and hot Indian food. Happy to fill in more details if that helps.

The first Mel is similar with Wayne

It is this modern world.

I am sure many years ago - back in my Lower Broughton days - Tracey would have been home cooking Mark 's dinner

' Times - they are a changing... '

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not getting involved in your political discussion, bit that post sounds like a bloke from the 1970s has just woken up in the 1980s and is describing to people the astonishing way "things have moved on."

I think it's a wind up, personally.
 
She's the wife / partner of Mark - the Chippy

Lovely couple, used to be my neighbours before I moved a mile away in 2007

The two families go on holiday each year. Tracey is actually as much of a mate as Mark - whilst Mark and I are big Cider drinkers, Tracey shares my taste in music - especially Meatloaf and hot Indian food. Happy to fill in more details if that helps.

The first Mel is similar with Wayne

It is this modern world.

I am sure many years ago - back in my Lower Broughton days - Tracey would have been home cooking Mark 's dinner

' Times - they are a changing... '
Meatloaf? Oh dear.
 
It is just the truth - I am not expecting you to recognise or understand it

But, as I try not to reply to you, but I just mistakenly have - let's just test your ability to analyse - you do have a need to improve.....

All the clues are in your post, my post and the post I was replying to - was it @Churchlawtonblue?

So given the information - can you analyse why....

a) the information supports Churchlawtons earlier posted views and

b) where I live - and given that voting profile Wokingham is a Remain constituency

Let's just see some analysis for a pleasant change

BTW Matty is early 30s the rest between 45 - 55
What is this - Guess Who?
 
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not getting involved in your political discussion, bit that post sounds like a bloke from the 1970s has just woken up in the 1980s and is describing to people the astonishing way "things have moved on."

I think it's a wind up, personally.
Surely not a wind up.
Isn’t there a daily checkatrade get together in most pubs at 4pm where one person from each building trade attends?
 
Sounds like they are preparing the groundwork for a major sympathy project for BoJo. The media will lap it up along with the sheep. Gove waiting in the background for his push from Uncle Wupert.

It will of course be lost on them that a Prime Minister shouldn't need a pity party. If he's not up to running the country he needs to stand aside for someone who is. It's not a job for taking it easy and having a couple of 'me' days.
 
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It will of course be lost on them that a Prime Minister shouldn't need a pity party. If he's not up to running the country he needs to stand aside for someone who is. It's not a job for taking it easy and having a couple of 'me' days.

I wonder if this kind of scenario has been on the cards since Cameron quit. He knew this was heading for disaster. There was no way that the old tory party and all its big city / establishment type backers were going to push through the kind of brexit that the bigoted zealots wanted. The competent members of the party have just drifted away into big London jobs or retirement. Teresa May thought she could find some middle ground but it was never going to work, that was just half of them trying to pull them back from the brink and the other half insisting they must press on.

Where we are now is on the edge of the cliff that Cameron did not want to be on. There is no good way forward and no good candidates for leader when it all falls apart. The tories have regressed massively since 2016, the calibre of MPs in the cabinet is woeful. The fact they are so reliant on Cummings a clear sign of how little talent there is.
 
The irony of Johnson being in charge of the no shagging party is just delicious.


You have to wonder if there is a special strain of Covid that only affects Tories and sends them even more insane than normal.
 
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She's the wife / partner of Mark - the Chippy

Lovely couple, used to be my neighbours before I moved a mile away in 2007

The two families go on holiday each year. Tracey is actually as much of a mate as Mark - whilst Mark and I are big Cider drinkers, Tracey shares my taste in music - especially Meatloaf and hot Indian food. Happy to fill in more details if that helps.

The first Mel is similar with Wayne

It is this modern world.

I am sure many years ago - back in my Lower Broughton days - Tracey would have been home cooking Mark 's dinner

' Times - they are a changing... '
You want banning for 'Meatloaf' if nowt else..
 
From today's Times from Sunday Times political editor Tim Shipman



And I can't help hoping that this was true



I can't help thinking a punch from Dominic Raab isn't going to hurt and a fight that gets broken up by Michael Gove is hardly Cool Cats v Leeds Service Crew.


Tired, Irritable and struggling with detail? Occasionally forgetful and unsighted in meetings?


If these are symptoms of recovering from Covid-19 he must have caught in in 2005.
 
Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not getting involved in your political discussion, bit that post sounds like a bloke from the 1970s has just woken up in the 1980s and is describing to people the astonishing way "things have moved on."

I think it's a wind up, personally.
Nope, no wind up - every word is true

I can agree though with the comparison to the situation of decades ago. In the early 80's I used to go to the pub at 4pm and there were lots of 'tradespeople' there in that era - the guys that I drink with tend to start at 0700 - 0800 so its a normal finishing time for them. It seems the habit of meeting up and having a pint or two down the pub before going home has endured.

I suspect that it is the same in every town across the UK - there will be some pubs in each town like this.

My comments on the number of people that I refer to and their voting patterns - again totally true - was to support @Ancient Citizen 's post:
The constant referencing of the 'Working class' is a feature of leftist politics, this description is now not so relevant, the tradesmen being cited are an example of that.
These people, as I said, are the ones that have eschewed Labour, as it now doesn't represent
them, and made that perfectly clear at the last GE.

So the reality is - as I have demonstrated - exactly what AC mentioned.

From my direct experience - there is a significant bias in this town for tradesmen to vote Tory and also to have voted Leave in the referendum.

There are other factors that easily explain that situation in a town that voted 57% Remain but I am not surprised that these could not be assessed/understood - not aimed at you.
 
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Meatloaf? Oh dear.
Hey - what can I say???

It is what it is - it was Bowie in my formative years and the Bat out of Hell album just stuck with me.

Tracey is 10 years younger - so I am not sure what her excuse is. When in our cups on holiday the neighbours are often treated......

That said - I bet - given that the Bay City Rollers, Wham, the Spice Girls and many other groups that made me cringe, have been very popular - there are some on here with more reason to keep private about their musical preferences whilst growing up than me.
 
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