UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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This question my have been answered numerous times and sorry if missed but surly if we had no positive case to answer silver lake would not have invested $500 million into the club a deal this big wouldn't have been decided otherwise i know it was before Uefa's decision but this must have been taken into account at the time?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Didn’t want them all to be criminal.

George Carmen represented Dodd. Brilliant man, but a cünt. Represented the Haçienda too btw. Know the solicitor that instructed him.

Calling @Prestwich_Blue
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Sigh.

Carman was a great friend of the senior partner who I first worked for. Met him a couple of times. Definitely a rum character, to put it mildly. Rodney Klevan, who Kavanagh QC was supposedly based on (although he was nothing like him) was a member of the extended Savage family.

And on that famous day 13th May 2012, I spent pre-match in City Square having some refreshments with a judge and his wife, who are friends of mine.
 
bobmcfc said:
So CAS are ruling on whether procedure was followed and not our guilt ?
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No the first hearing was in procedure, this is about the alleged breach. Whether it was breached, whether the 2014 settlement was the end of the matter as they have come back to hit us again for what we were penalised previously.
There are also matters such as statute of limitations which UEFA appear to have failed.
In addition the hacked emails may be the central focus of UEFA claims, although they may look bad they don’t necessarily show the true picture.
Lots more but suggest you read the posts by ProjectDriver & Prestwich_blue
 
leewill31 said:
This question my have been answered numerous times and sorry if missed but surly if we had no positive case to answer silver lake would not have invested $500 million into the club a deal this big wouldn't have been decided otherwise i know it was before Uefa's decision but this must have been taken into account at the time?
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I wouldn't use that myself to assume anything about the case. It could be they view their investment over a much longer period than an initial 2 year CL ban and not being banned is an instant gamble bonus if it happens.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
I wouldn't use that myself to assume anything about the case. It could be they view their investment over a much longer period than an initial 2 year CL ban and not being banned is an instant gamble bonus if it happens.
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I think there is very little chance they invested at a $5bn value factoring in a 2 year ban. Safe to say, their due diligence and advice was that a 1 year ban worst case and probably unlikely. In short they probably underestimated the risk.
 
projectriver said:
I think there is very little chance they invested at a $5bn value factoring in a 2 year ban. Safe to say, their due diligence and advice was that a 1 year ban worst case and probably unlikely. In short they probably underestimated the risk.
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Surely if they were factoring in a possible 1 yr ban (with all the negative associations that will bring) then a 2 yr ban is not much worse.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Thanks - that helps - and it should have been obvious to me

Just the typical mindset of a long-standing CITY fan I guess - expecting bad news and the world to be biased and fixed against us
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Although that motion was lost, CAS were scathing about the behaviour of Leterme and sympathised with us over the leaks.
I think the presence of 2 of those judges is good for us, they are cognisant of dodgy Uefa behaviour.
 
projectriver said:
2 year is far worse than a 1 year. Far more than double impact.
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I must admit I haven't been following this as closely as I should so may have missed discussion around this, but how would that be? I understand the impact of lost revenue from not being in the competition would be doubled and recruitment of players would be affected but surely the tarnishing of the brand is similar whether 1 year or 2, and the huge investment is surely just "delayed" an extra period as the club address how to fix their image, which surely would have to be done either way.

This conversation started as my response to a question that Silver Lake's investment could possibly be seen as evidence that they have confidence of overruling UEFA's ban so we're in agreement that it shouldn't necessarily be taken that way, I think, but I'd appreciate your opinion. If it's in your podcast(s), which I haven't yet listened to, I'll go off and make time!
 
hihosilva said:
If we are found to be guilty either one or two year ban the consequences are not good. We will then have the Premier League on our backs.
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Maybe maybe not. No club banned by UEFA has suffered domestic league sanctions as far as I am aware. That said the more severe the sanction (especially post CAS) the more likely PL sanction is and the more severe the pressure for such sanction. Moreover, the footballing aspect of the 2 year ban are far greater - there is a likelihood on 2 years that big players will leave. 1 Covid year ban and its possible but more manageable.
 
Citizen Green said:
Never understood why football fans would go on a rival fans forum to gage opinion on their own team, it's basically torturing yourself, but each to their own.
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With regards to RAWK - it is a form of exposure that can only be done very rarely and very briefly.

The redscouse are the absolute demonstration of entitlement and their hatred for CITY is 'off the scale'. So many posts demanding that we have no relevance - even as they obsess about us.
 
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