I do not believe that you understand how things work in the Arab world. It is not the USA or even here where the threat of litigation is commonly used.
They are equally if not more determined to prevail and not lose face but prefer to take a different approach than to rush to the courts where dirty washing will be aired and the outcome cannot be predicted. Better our owners retain their dignity and not get drawn into irrelevant tit for tat posturing. The aim is to win not score points.
You're thinking of his 'in the first instance' statement which just means they'll take it to CAS and see what proceeds from there.I seem to remember a statement by Mr K. stating that CAS was first stage.?
So I understand it in England the new FFP due to Covid 19 will allow United owners to put in more money then any other English team.
Putting money into the club is purely cash flow, like a loan any business could take, FFP doesn’t allow you to recognise that cash injection as income or revenue,. I suspect quite a few clubs will be taking out additional loans in the next few months.So I understand it in England the new FFP due to Covid 19 will allow United owners to put in more money then any other English team.
Also, what @Cast No Shadow is missing is that Leicester, City and Liverpool have all failed FFP in the last decade.
FFP clearly creates an environment where established clubs benefit. This is proved by the unprecedented domination of PSG, Bayern, Juve, Barca, Madrid. In lesser leagues, you also have Olympiakos, Benfica, Shakhtar Donetsk, Basel etc all-dominating as well. There's never been another period where European Leagues have all simultaneously become uncompetitive on this scale. All can be traced back to the implementation of FFP.
Of course, you'll always get shocks (like Monaco in Ligue 1), but there's a reason we're back to business as usual in France. There's no opportunity to sustain success unless you're already at the top.
The Premier League clearly bucks the trend. The reason being that each club receives huge sums from TV revenue and sponsorships in comparison to other leagues - the distribution of wealth in the Premier League is far, far fairer than say La Liga. So the disparity between clubs is smaller (but not small enough, hence the newly established 'big 6').
Sorry I know I already replied but just none of this stands up at all.
The 4 richest clubs in the country have won + Leicester who broke FFP. As many teams have won the league from 2011-2020 as did 2000-2010. When Liverpool win it'll be 1 more. Oh thanks for the increased competition!
FFP did protect United and Arsenal for years until their mismanagement finally caught up with them. United have spent the 2nd most money since FFP came in. If Wolves, Leicester and others had been allowed to spend their money, it would have happened years ago.
Monaco lost Bernardo, Mbappe, Bakayoko, Lemar and Mendy because the Monaco owner wasn't allowed to use his own money to keep them. He couldn't invest money to pay them or buy players to make them stay in the belief it wasn't a one-off.
Again this is an absurd argument. The problem is that these clubs are forced to sell because they can't compete. Wolfsburg have the richest owners in German football but they can't invest. That's the problem, not that we happened to buy 4 players over 10 years from the rung below us in European football.
Having a manager at a club as successful as Ferguson who ran everything for 25 years is both a blessing and a curse. I’m not going to argue about United’s domestic domination during that period, but I would say overall they should have done better in Europe during that period. Towards the end of Ferguson’s reign you could see them becoming less and less effective in European competitions as the way European clubs were structured, changed. As Barcelona beat them 3-1 at Wembley you could see United looked like an out of date, waning empire both on and off the pitch in comparison with their opponents.Not even going to comment on the rest of the post, but it is, and has been obvious for the last 20 odd years that Utd were going to become less successful when Ferguson went, basically because he became the club. The distance they have in fact fallen is down the decisions of the owners. The same is true of Arsenal to a lesser degree, neither side have been disadvantaged by FFP.
Having a manager at a club as successful as Ferguson who ran everything for 25 years is both a blessing and a curse. I’m not going to argue about United’s domestic domination during that period, but I would say overall they should have done better in Europe during that period. Towards the end of Ferguson’s reign you could see them becoming less and less effective in European competitions as the way European clubs were structured, changed. As Barcelona beat them 3-1 at Wembley you could see United looked like an out of date, waning empire both on and off the pitch in comparison with their opponents.
From their perspective (United fans), you’d have been looking to see the beginnings of a structure put in place that could be “switched on” when Ferguson retired. A plan if you like. A recognition that what they had was great, but times had changed.
Instead they employed Fergie MKII (so they hoped), David Moyes. Unsurprisingly it was a disaster and nothing have done has felt like a coherent strategy for them since. The football world moved on and they didn’t. I’m not saying they’re going anywhere but unless something changes for them, they could endure a Liverpool style wait for another Premier League title.
We were never going to pass FFP in 2014 but we were under the belief that, based on the rules as they were just days before our 2013 year end, we would avoid punishment. But the rules changed in a way that I had no reason to know about. And when we did get sanctioned, I was the one who discovered why, when none of the highly paid journalists or financial pundits managed to do, which I think counts for something. I also said at the time that the sanctions weren't really that bad, when people on here were wailing and gnashing their teeth, which Soriano confirmed a little while back.From what you heard we were not foul of FFP in 2014, which went well. Hopefully you're not so far out this time, even a stopped clock....
Having a manager at a club as successful as Ferguson who ran everything for 25 years is both a blessing and a curse. I’m not going to argue about United’s domestic domination during that period, but I would say overall they should have done better in Europe during that period. Towards the end of Ferguson’s reign you could see them becoming less and less effective in European competitions as the way European clubs were structured, changed. As Barcelona beat them 3-1 at Wembley you could see United looked like an out of date, waning empire both on and off the pitch in comparison with their opponents.
From their perspective (United fans), you’d have been looking to see the beginnings of a structure put in place that could be “switched on” when Ferguson retired. A plan if you like. A recognition that what they had was great, but times had changed.
Instead they employed Fergie MKII (so they hoped), David Moyes. Unsurprisingly it was a disaster and nothing have done has felt like a coherent strategy for them since. The football world moved on and they didn’t. I’m not saying they’re going anywhere but unless something changes for them, they could endure a Liverpool style wait for another Premier League title.
Having a manager at a club as successful as Ferguson who ran everything for 25 years is both a blessing and a curse. I’m not going to argue about United’s domestic domination during that period, but I would say overall they should have done better in Europe during that period. Towards the end of Ferguson’s reign you could see them becoming less and less effective in European competitions as the way European clubs were structured, changed. As Barcelona beat them 3-1 at Wembley you could see United looked like an out of date, waning empire both on and off the pitch in comparison with their opponents.
From their perspective (United fans), you’d have been looking to see the beginnings of a structure put in place that could be “switched on” when Ferguson retired. A plan if you like. A recognition that what they had was great, but times had changed.
Instead they employed Fergie MKII (so they hoped), David Moyes. Unsurprisingly it was a disaster and nothing have done has felt like a coherent strategy for them since. The football world moved on and they didn’t. I’m not saying they’re going anywhere but unless something changes for them, they could endure a Liverpool style wait for another Premier League title.
Money talks Wealth whispersI find our owner a bit of a mystery really. I would expect a top Arab bloke like him to be very proud, and to have a high concept of his own honour. He is of course, almost unimaginably rich and very powerful in the wider world.
For such a bloke, he seems to be willing to swallow an awful lot of shit. Maybe he's playing a long game. Maybe it's tactical. Maybe his snapping-point will come. Or maybe he's doesn't deign to climb down into the gutter with these scum.
That’s very appealingThe first cas appeal was because uefa had previously attempted to kick out an appeal made at this stage saying it should have been appealed earlier. So cas agreed that we needed to appeal because uefas rules weren't clear on when we needed to appeal and they had previously argued against appeals at final stages
Interesting that you think we are part of the problem. That's what Tebag and Bayern say. Still, it makes more sense than the post BTL in the Grauniad yesterday that claimed lack of competition was the fault of fans for supporting the more successful teams.
The fact that it was the result of an argument over horse semen makes it even funnier.The best thing about United 2013-present is knowing that all their problems stem from Alex Fergusson being such a twat that his billionaire former friend sold the club down the river to spite him.
Depends where you stuck your head I suppose ;-)You could see it coming! ;-)
Maybe they weren't 100% sure themselves bud, so it was a case of "just to be sure their case doesn't fail on that particular technicality" ?
Good to see I wasn't the only one who thought it said 'ProjectDriver' ;-)