UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[trumpton]

FFP could be more effective if it took a more holistic (is it safe to use that word yet?) look at clubs' financial situations.

At the moment it just looks at the P&L account yet you could have two clubs with identical revenue and bottom lines but one has loads of cash in the bank and the other could be weighed down with debt and struggling to meet the repayments. Currently FFP sees those two as equal, whereas the reality is that the latter is far more at risk than the former.

Silly question on ffp regs as my brain is consumed with rules directly affecting us at the minute.

What's to stop a club taking a £500 million loan against the club to buy players, as long as they can afford the repayments?

 

[SkemBlue1]

Silly question on ffp regs as my brain is consumed with rules directly affecting us at the minute.

What's to stop a club taking a £500 million loan against the club to buy players, as long as they can afford the repayments?

I think they look at the Profit and loss accounts. So if their outgoings including the loan repayment don't exceed their income they're Ok.

 

[urban genie]

You refer to yourself as a Bert, do you not?

Yeah

 

[trumpton]

I think they look at the Profit and loss accounts. So if their outgoings including the loan repayment don't exceed their income they're Ok.

That's my thinking, hopefully @Prestwich_Blue will be along to confirm.

 

[Daz_Blue]

Ian Cheeseman
@IanCheeseman
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7m

My Dad has had a bad three days, he has dementia but on Thursday he had a stroke, and today he banged his head in a fall, so I’ve spent three days next to him. I’m not in the right frame of mind to do a #ManCity vlog today - I’m sure you understand

 

[Patientman63]

Take screenshots. 90% of us are blocked ;)

Hahaaa I blocked the prick months ago! It's almost self-harming to keep reading his drivel and responding to it, an utterly pointless exercise.

It didn't matter how solid or reasoned your argument was, he just carried on splarting his baseline rhetoric. An example; City are a state owned club. Very easily disproved with even a cursory amount of research. He never changed his tune once. He is a wind-up merchant, funded by Qatar, who was given way too much oxygen imo, along with the other dicks in the WhatsApp group. As my daddy used to say "never argue with an idiot in public, 'cos anyone watching wont be able to tell the difference between you"

 

[KS55]

Here's a dream. Ceferin wins the war. New ffp rules include maximum debt provision. Oh, the boiling piss!

 

[mat]

I like how you capitalised the j in just — very American subliminal messaging.

You’ve trained me well on here.

 

[SkemBlue1]

That's my thinking, hopefully @Prestwich_Blue will be along to confirm.

There's some exclusions like Liverpool's Stanley Park nonsense, my son is an accountant I'll ask him. These "little" things are Offset against the overall Profit and loss.

 

[Barcon]

Yeah

Just pointing out that some people do. A few people on here say they have never heard anyone say it before.
I remember somebody on here taking offence at me calling myself Manc once. : )

 

[MBMB]

Ian Cheeseman
@IanCheeseman
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7m

My Dad has had a bad three days, he has dementia but on Thursday he had a stroke, and today he banged his head in a fall, so I’ve spent three days next to him. I’m not in the right frame of mind to do a #ManCity vlog today - I’m sure you understand

This may explain his rash tweet yesterday. Bad news all round.

 

[KS55]

Just pointing out that some people do. A few people on here say they have never heard anyone say it before.
I remember somebody on here taking offence at me calling myself Manc once. : )

What?!
I proudly refer to myself as a manc. I passed the "Walk Like A Manc" certificate and everything,

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

That's my thinking, hopefully @Prestwich_Blue will be along to confirm.

Nothing to stop them, as long as the interest repayments, plus the amortisation on the players they bought, doesn't tip them into a situation where they exceed the maximum allowable loss under FFP.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Engaging in a battle of wits with Delooney is going up against an unarmed man..

 

[SkemBlue1]

Nothing to stop them, as long as the interest repayments, plus the amortisation on the players they bought, doesn't tip them into a situation where they exceed the maximum allowable loss under FFP.

Offset? "amortisation" was the term I was looking for. Thanks Prestwich Blue.

 

[BrianW]

Perhaps the way forward is to spend £100 million on a new stadium that we never actually build. Because that's fair and in no way cheating whatever.

 

[Citizen Green]

To my mind, engaging Delaney in a debate is a pointless task.

He’s not going to alter his opinion on the subject and if anything it’s only going to anger the person trying to educate him, in fact, even he realised he’d had it wrong half way through said argument he would never admit it.

Pointless task.

 

[cleavers]

This may explain his rash tweet yesterday. Bad news all round.

Yeah bad news for his dad.

 

[M18CTID]

Just had an arse-twitching moment. Someone in a WhatsApp group of ours said apparently the CAS details have been leaked and we’ve lost the case, and posted a link to it. Then said “or is this the previous case?”. Turns out it was thank fuck!
https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_6298_internet.pdf

 

[SkemBlue1]

Perhaps the way forward is to spend £100 million on a new stadium that we never actually build. Because that's fair and in no way cheating whatever.

Won't get much of a Stadium for £100 million. Spurs Stadium was £850 million. The even applied for Furloughs for their staff, Liverpool did to but dropped that.