Another new Brexit thread

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hgblue said:
I’ve heard that you guys think the UK is an insignificant ant about to be crushed by the all powerful, totally virtuous, fully united EU, about 7,000 times. I disagree. The EU will not waver from it’s red lines and we’ll be forced to concede. I disagree. I think there will be a deal and the EU will be forced to make some concessions if it wants one. However, arguing about this is pointless and a waste of time and energy, we will all find out soon enough. In the meantime there’s nothing but petty point scoring and endless whining from people who have invested far too much personal capital in whether they are proven right on a fairly insignificant thread on a politics sub forum on a football forum for fellow blues. Apart from a handful of regular contributors, nobody gives a shit.
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And you were the one complaining about people not posting anything interesting!!
 
bluethrunthru said:
shhhhhh - its a truth free fact free zone - you just have to believe and rejoice in the freedom of movement around the UK that Brexit has brought us - thank fuck for that - the good folk of Moston can now travel to Audenshaw unhindered by EU red tape...................
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Thought Audenshaw was in the Peoples Republic of Tameside, so there may be problems at the frontier near Clayton Bridge.
 
crazyg said:
Thought Audenshaw was in the Peoples Republic of Tameside, so there may be problems at the frontier near Clayton Bridge.
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They were promised friction free trade and travel but I have heard tell that customs posts are secretly being erected and there is a huge lorry park capable of holding up to 25 trucks is planned - it will be put on some land currently occupied by some allotments but these will be bought by means of a compulsory purchase order. It is denied HS2 will eventually terminate on the outskirts of Stalybridge.
 
bluethrunthru said:
They were promised friction free trade and travel but I have heard tell that customs posts are secretly being erected and there is a huge lorry park capable of holding up to 25 trucks is planned - it will be put on some land currently occupied by some allotments but these will be bought by means of a compulsory purchase order. It is denied HS2 will eventually terminate on the outskirts of Stalybridge.
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Good job I moved from Millbrook to Woodley 35 years ago then!
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
I await these acts of retribution.

Violent sneering? Revolutionary tweets? Hordes of people chanting "shame" in the supermarkets (whilst socially distancing, of course)?
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I feel they may hit us hard with moaning on bluemoon, we won’t notice any difference mind so if they could let us know when it starts that would be nice.
 
inbetween said:
All of this is a pre-referendum argument, you are arguing why Brexit shouldn't happen but the only fact on the table is it's happening.

The electorate has consistently voted for it in every question asked since 2016 so you're argument here is pointless and too late.

From 2016 to 2019, Brexit from a remain point of view should of been about mitigation but that argument was lost too.

So now in 2020 we are at implementation and that's the reality in front of us. Anything else is delusional, sorry.
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Really well said

So many Remainers are still living pre-June 2016

It is why they have made no sense or had impact since then
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
They aren't to blame for failing to address and satisfy the fears about federalism?
They aren't to blame for failing to promote the EU in a positive light besides "but...muh moneh"?
They aren't to blame for insulting the intelligence of the British Public at every turn?
They aren't to blame for insulting the integrity of the British Public by claiming a vote to leave was based on racism?
They aren't to blame for trying to frustrate the process of leaving in Parliament?
They aren't to blame for trying to delay the process of leaving in Parliament?
They aren't to blame for refusing to co-operate with the process of leaving in Parliament?
They aren't to blame for failing to put forward a convincing argument that leavers could appreciate about remaining?
They aren't to blame for failing to placate or even acknowledge leave voters concerns about the EU?
They aren't to blame for socially distancing themselves from the majority of the British Public by consistantly insulting leave voters, therefore giving the Conservatives a huge majority and being responsible for the direct divide we now have in British politics?

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Well done

In summary - if there is a hard Brexit - Remainers are largely to blame due to their self indulgence over 4 years
 
inbetween said:
My point in all of this is falling back on blame doesn't really solve much does it?

Corbyn must hold blame because he was the most prominent remain supporter and was the leader of the opposition for the entirety of the referendum and negotiation.

Did he oppose Brexit, did he challenge Brexit? Jesus he only bothered to come up with an alternative Brexit to stop his party from collapsing in the 2019 election (which it did anyway).

May's deal or any number of other options could of been our Brexit had remainers voted for it but now we have a majority party that can turn to no deal whenever it wants. I don't see how that is leavers fault?

Again I put the blame on everyone for this mess, it's a mess because no-one could ever agree and no-one ever accepted anything other than what they wanted. The stalemate vacuum resulted in the electorate having it's say and forcing the issue which is where we are now.
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That is a post heavy with inconvenient truths
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
These people need a scapegoat so that they can have someone to place under their pariah guillotine.

I still find it amusing all this talk of trying to find "blame for brexit". It's not even as if they're going to do anything.

"Brexiteers must take the blame for brexit!"

Yeah? What are you going to do about it? Not associate with me anymore?
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I mean let's be honest here; had Corbyn won the election way back in 2017, and continued to press on with a brexit deal that Labour had agreed, nobody of the remain persuasion would be anywhere near as vitriolic about brexit as they are today. It's because it's a "Tory Brexit" is what's pissing them off and throwing around the "blame" insinuation.
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Fuck yeah

I have said previously that many 'Remainers' on here would be fully behind Brexit if that policy had gotten Corbyn into power.

They can - and do - lie about it - but only to themselves - the rest of us can see straight through the nonsense
 
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Ancient Citizen said:
They went balls out and managed to delay the result, all the while hurling the insults out, a
PM who, by then, had no majority managed to get their support for an election,
and not only did the dream turn to dust, it was compounded by a massive Tory majority.

ARF.
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Double ARF
 
mcfc1632 said:
Fuck yeah

I have said previously that many 'Remainers' on here would be fully behind Brexit if that pisihad gotten Corbyn into power.

They can - and do - lie about it - but only to themselves - the rest of us can see straight through the nonsense
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I wouldn’t.

Brexit is still a ridiculous decision for us imo but I’d rather rip the plaster off and go with no deal than be a subservient to the EU, with zero say, indefinitely.

The problem is, there’s about 5% of people, at a guess, with my view, in the country.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Fuck yeah

I have said previously that many 'Remainers' on here would be fully behind Brexit if that pisihad gotten Corbyn into power.

They can - and do - lie about it - but only to themselves - the rest of us can see straight through the nonsense
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Can’t speak for anyone else, of course, but I certainly wouldn’t.
 
Kosei Pharma preparing for Brexit. Open subsidiary in Germany. Shut down subsidiary in UK. 150 jobs at risk. They did raise concerns re lack of influence on EU regulations post Brexit.

 
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