Eric Garcia to Barcelona

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Why would it be a dream move? He already decided to leave there once.
He left for a nice contract at a very young age and probably thought he had a better chance to progress at City.
Any Spanish guy who comes to live in Manchester has my utmost respect for the difference in culture, lifestyle and particularly climate must be incredibly difficult.
The opportunity to return to Barca for Garcia was always a big possibility and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to return IF he gets the chance.
 
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Brahim Diaz made a 'dream move'.

Garcia is in the Manchester City first team and well regarded. I think he will stay if he believes he has a chance to play in the Manchester City first team. I don't think any young player would give up that opportunity at such a young age.
Diaz was always on the fringes of our squad, it was going to be as difficult to break into out 1st squad as it was at Madrid. The difference was a return to his homeland and a very big improved contract.
 
Off topic @richards30. Moreover, you demonstrate your ignorance when you assert Tebas is in Barca's corner

Tabas may not be in Barca’s corner as you assert but he is clearly happy for the Spanish league to be dominated by two clubs who take a disproportionate percentage of tv revenues that allows them to financially dominate the league. It’s hard to see how the other teams see Tabas acting in all their best interests when the league is quite clearly structured to favour two teams. Of course the PL is no bastion of fairness but the distribution of collective revenues are presently distributed far more fairly and objectively than they are in Spain.
 
Unlikely, particularly when you consider you got him for free and was fully developed by Barcelona - hence why the player has rebuffed a contract extension, knowing full well the club will not pay a big fee for him. City have invested 3 years, Barcelona a decade. Naive to think otherwise.

Clear Pep & City have made the player feel important and expressed their trust in his future but similarly City & Pep also know that if the will of the player is to return to his home club there is little they can/will do to stop it. Domenech pointed out his desire to return is predicated on Barca showing an interest in his return - if they do not, he will stay of course. Perhaps Pep, like Luis Martin or Adrian Sanchez, does not have confidence this board prioritize his return - we'll see as I have my doubts as well

all the first paragraph is irrelavant - in any market the value of a player is what the seller puts on something - yes there will be negotiations but we will sell if we need to (like we did with Sane - 55m for a player agitating for a move for over a year who clearly didnt want to be here). So for example city may sell 25m for Garcia - Barca wil go no way and we will say ok he stays here and if we have to give him away in 12/18 months on a free we will do - we are in a strong er position with Garcia than with Sane as we have direct replacements for him whetehr senior or Youth plus those out on loan - so we can really afford to make you(and Garcia) wait if we want. therefor a deal will be done if thats what the player idicates he wants to happen at this point in his career - he might decide he doesnt want it yet - he may look at the political situation at your club and say no chance at present as well.
Barca may not want to wait and neither may Garcia - 12 months sat on the sidelines and only being used if absolutely needed does him no good

What you say int he second paragraph is true of ANY player regardless of whether its Barca or city or Madrid - if a player doesnt want to be somewhere they have the power - make no mistake of it either however - If Garcia doesnt want to be here Pep will quickly change his approach to him (not publically perhaps but he will) Sane was fit for the last 7-8 games of this season and got about 3 mins on the pitch - the same will happen to Garcia.

A prediction like that is pretty presumtious and arrogant for anyone to make - its like us saying Phil foden will be a city player forever cause he is a city fan - if his chances became limited or the club decided he want the player we needed he would leave. Of course if he is a Barca boy he may want to return one day (but that day might be a long way off)

For what its worth, I rate Garcua BUT I wold happily sell him to Barca - Long term I think he will struggle in the prem league and I have always thought that.

What pisses of fans of clubs however is clubs like Munich using the press to unsettle players. - lets hope Barca show a little more class than that and if they want him, operate in an honest and straight forward nature without members of your board, maangement or players spouting off int he media about him - if they dont do that I will have no prpblem selling him to Barca at all
 
Tabas may not be in Barca’s corner as you assert but he is clearly happy for the Spanish league to be dominated by two clubs who take a disproportionate percentage of tv revenues that allows them to financially dominate the league. It’s hard to see how the other teams see Tabas acting in all their best interests when the league is quite clearly structured to favour two teams. Of course the PL is no bastion of fairness but the distribution of collective revenues are presently distributed far more fairly and objectively than they are in Spain.

The hypocrisy of that racist twat is beyond belief - the disengeniousnes of his comments are as bad as any politician - a very blatant attempt to maintain the dominence of the elite clubs - all based on profit - the Spannish league is boring - yes two great teams but virtually no one else stands a cat in hells chance

Same in Germany as well

At least the prem league is competative ause he likes of us and Chelsea broke the cartel - i was sort of hoping Newcastle might do the same as well as that would really put the cat amongst the pigeons especially as dislike city and Chelsea they are a one club town (no direct rivals besides Sunderland) and that means they would be straight away be in competition with the rest of the league without havign to even concern themselves with dominance within their own area.
 
Tabas may not be in Barca’s corner as you assert but he is clearly happy for the Spanish league to be dominated by two clubs who take a disproportionate percentage of tv revenues that allows them to financially dominate the league. It’s hard to see how the other teams see Tabas acting in all their best interests when the league is quite clearly structured to favour two teams. Of course the PL is no bastion of fairness but the distribution of collective revenues are presently distributed far more fairly and objectively than they are in Spain.

Well written. The only thing making this sort of "viable" is that the level of the league is high (compared to others) which allows two other clubs additionally enter CL. So clubs (let's say the most ambitious ones) have something to fight for. Nevertheless terms of competition (including refereeing policy) are ridiculously unfair making it extremely hard (if not impossible) for everybody else to make a serious challenge for the first 2 places.

In 4 out of the 5 "big" leagues competition is literally killed. Fact. A status quo the establishment naturally wants to maintain for ever. UEFA and the media work in the same direction.
 
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Tabas may not be in Barca’s corner as you assert but he is clearly happy for the Spanish league to be dominated by two clubs who take a disproportionate percentage of tv revenues that allows them to financially dominate the league. It’s hard to see how the other teams see Tabas acting in all their best interests when the league is quite clearly structured to favour two teams. Of course the PL is no bastion of fairness but the distribution of collective revenues are presently distributed far more fairly and objectively than they are in Spain.

Tebas is despised by nearly any cule so the OP was so far off base he/she might as well have confused black with white

The TV revenue topic is a very different one and Tebas has little to do with Barca enjoying an equal lion's share of that - it's simple economics, those two clubs dominate the country in terms of interest, viewers, sponsors or any other financial metric. You generate more, you get more normally.

I do not, however, agree that this imbalance should continue - better revenue sharing is critical to the future of the league in the modern game but I would prioritize ridding the officiating from it's obvious bias
 
Tebas is despised by nearly any cule so the OP was so far off base he/she might as well have confused black with white

The TV revenue topic is a very different one and Tebas has little to do with Barca enjoying an equal lion's share of that - it's simple economics, those two clubs dominate the country in terms of interest, viewers, sponsors or any other financial metric. You generate more, you get more normally.

I do not, however, agree that this imbalance should continue - better revenue sharing is critical to the future of the league in the modern game but I would prioritize ridding the officiating from it's obvious bias

Good post - can’t really disagree with anything of that.
 
all the first paragraph is irrelavant - in any market the value of a player is what the seller puts on something

Irrelevant to you perhaps but pertinent to the topic since this is not Barca's first rodeo with former La Masia players trying to make the pilgrimmage back to the club. They will not overpay for players they developed much less left via the backdoor (Which is what was considered in Eric's case) - those cantera players need to assert themselves for a return and absolutely will not pay normal market fees.



What you say int he second paragraph is true of ANY player regardless of whether its Barca or city or Madrid

Nope. Barca is quite unique in this regard, I know of no other big club that has the same pull from cantera players. In particular, Pep (ditto for Txiki) would never prevent much less complicate a cantera player's return if he wanted it


A prediction like that is pretty presumtious and arrogant for anyone to make - its like us saying Phil foden will be a city player forever cause he is a city fan - if his chances became limited or the club decided he want the player we needed he would leave. Of course if he is a Barca boy he may want to return one day (but that day might be a long way off)

Not sure what prediction you believe I am making



What pisses of fans of clubs however is clubs like Munich using the press to unsettle players. - lets hope Barca show a little more class than that and if they want him, operate in an honest and straight forward nature without members of your board, maangement or players spouting off int he media about him - if they dont do that I will have no prpblem selling him to Barca at all

There's a detente between City & Barca atm, not sure who negotiated it but they play nicely for the most part of late. And as I said, because of the key people involved (Txiki, Pep & Eric) there is no chance it would descend into anything unprofessional. If the board want the player back, he will be returning - I have no doubt as I trust Domenech, he has never lied in the media with respect to transfers (Esp. involving cantera players as he was one once too). The question really is whether the player was playing Oriol (Which I doubt) or if the board will prioritize him (I also doubt)

I want it to happen but I think there are so many other transfer variables & priorities that board will give only the illusion of pursuit as Oso said on twitter
 
Tebas is despised by nearly any cule so the OP was so far off base he/she might as well have confused black with white

The TV revenue topic is a very different one and Tebas has little to do with Barca enjoying an equal lion's share of that - it's simple economics, those two clubs dominate the country in terms of interest, viewers, sponsors or any other financial metric. You generate more, you get more normally.

I do not, however, agree that this imbalance should continue - better revenue sharing is critical to the future of the league in the modern game but I would prioritize ridding the officiating from it's obvious bias

Why wouldn't you want that imbalance to continue? It's in your favour for it to. If La Liga shares revenue fairly as they do here, more clubs become attractive to investors and more competitive due to funds available. That means the league is harder and Barca and Real will have a tougher challenge in winnint it nearly every year. Do you want that?!
 
He left for a nice contract at a very young age and probably thought he had a better chance to progress at City.
Any Spanish guy who comes to live in Manchester has my utmost respect for, the difference in culture, lifestyle and particularly climate must be incredibly difficult.
The opportunity to return to Barca for Garcia was always a big possibility and I would not blame him at all if he wanted to return IF he gets the chance.

I echo this. The setup at City has been designed to make it as smooth as possible so potentially we'll see more occurrences of this sort of situation: some we'll be happy to move on with best wishes (Kelechi, Brahim Diaz) some we might have to reluctantly let go (Sane, potentially Garcia). If the club is making a tidy profit and producing top players then good things will grow from it. Fair play to the players, we shouldn't expect them to have some kind of undying loyalty; would we in the same position have the same loyalty to Dortmund, Villarreal, Monaco?
 
Why wouldn't you want that imbalance to continue? It's in your favour for it to. If La Liga shares revenue fairly as they do here, more clubs become attractive to investors and more competitive due to funds available. That means the league is harder and Barca and Real will have a tougher challenge in winnint it nearly every year. Do you want that?!

Same reason I do not advocate the 1% model in politics/economics, that sort of imbalance is unhealthy and kills competition - soon, irrelevant

I miss the days of a strong Valencia, Deportivo, Villarreal etc - Sevilla has a great tradition as well and it's commonly accepted that the depth of talent in the country is immense. Competition brings out better football, not hegemony
 
I echo this. The setup at City has been designed to make it as smooth as possible so potentially we'll see more occurrences of this sort of situation: some we'll be happy to move on with best wishes (Kelechi, Brahim Diaz) some we might have to reluctantly let go (Sane, potentially Garcia). If the club is making a tidy profit and producing top players then good things will grow from it. Fair play to the players, we shouldn't expect them to have some kind of undying loyalty; would we in the same position have the same loyalty to Dortmund, Villarreal, Monaco?
Exactly and we can't expect every kid who plays for us to be the club of his dreams.
 
Clear Pep & City have made the player feel important and expressed their trust in his future but similarly City & Pep also know that if the will of the player is to return to his home club there is little they can/will do to stop it. Domenech pointed out his desire to return is predicated on Barca showing an interest in his return - if they do not, he will stay of course. Perhaps Pep, like Luis Martin or Adrian Sanchez, does not have confidence this board prioritize his return - we'll see as I have my doubts as well
So if he stays at City, it’s only because Barca didn’t want him anyway? Ha, jog on Spanish rag.
 
Unlikely, particularly when you consider you got him for free and was fully developed by Barcelona - hence why the player has rebuffed a contract extension, knowing full well the club will not pay a big fee for him. City have invested 3 years, Barcelona a decade. Naive to think otherwise.

Clear Pep & City have made the player feel important and expressed their trust in his future but similarly City & Pep also know that if the will of the player is to return to his home club there is little they can/will do to stop it. Domenech pointed out his desire to return is predicated on Barca showing an interest in his return - if they do not, he will stay of course. Perhaps Pep, like Luis Martin or Adrian Sanchez, does not have confidence this board prioritize his return - we'll see as I have my doubts as well
He’s going nowhere
Barca are a basket case they can’t help press the self destruct button with the in fighting and now financially in the mire This is why Ferran Tiki and Pep are here, in the Barca of the north Biggest mistake Messi made is not coming here with Pep to prove he could do it in the toughest league in the world
 
I don't think Eric will leave anytime soon, he's got Pep's trust and respect through his performances, even with new CBs coming in that means a lot. I hope he extends and if one day in a few years etc he wants to go back to La Liga, he would with my blessing. Not every player is going to stay 10/15 years.
 
He’s going nowhere
Barca are a basket case they can’t help press the self destruct button with the in fighting and now financially in the mire This is why Ferran Tiki and Pep are here, in the Barca of the north Biggest mistake Messi made is not coming here with Pep to prove he could do it in the toughest league in the world
the way @FCBarca is talking. It's almost like every player La Masia produces is a Robot with an Internal compas/ Need to come home when Cantenara Catalans calls.

Like seriously... If your parents call, you will return home. Everyone knows this.

But Eric Garcia is an intelligent boy. He is not some brainwashed sleeper agent that is at the whim of Barca...

why is that so hard to comprehend??

He left Barca 3 years ago... for a very specific, specific reason. and 3 years later, that very reason has gotten worse, way worse.

@FCBarca are you seriously saying that if Barca called Eric Garcia to come back home for a January transfer in December 2017( 4 months after he signed for us) Then Eric would just up and follow orders like a good Cantenara Catalan??

There is a reason why Juan Larios is leaving Barcelona to come join us, despite bieng offered to be Alba's successor & bieng one of the best earners of La Masia. The Spanish entourage(players/staff) at Man City is extremely big.

We are the Manchester Catalans, Barca are now just the parody version.
 
Irrelevant to you perhaps but pertinent to the topic since this is not Barca's first rodeo with former La Masia players trying to make the pilgrimmage back to the club. They will not overpay for players they developed much less left via the backdoor (Which is what was considered in Eric's case) - those cantera players need to assert themselves for a return and absolutely will not pay normal market fees.

No its irrelevant in all free market trade -seller sets a price buyer decides whether he wants to pay it or not - negotiation takes place if needed. If Barca doesnt cough up the money that city are happy with (if Garcia wants to leave) then we dont have to sell. Garcia and Barca can wait till his contract runs down


Nope. Barca is quite unique in this regard, I know of no other big club that has the same pull from cantera players. In particular, Pep (ditto for Txiki) would never prevent much less complicate a cantera player's return if he wanted it

I wasnt talking about Cantera players - I was talking about this is nothing special in terms of players from other parts of the world - you are acting like this doesnt happen in other areas as well - it does ndis jsut as special to those players.

Gerrard staying at liverpool all his career despite other clubs wanting him - why - cause he is a scouser
Kane at spurs
Messi at Barca
John Terry at Chelsea

Not sure what prediction you believe I am making

Im talking about you predicting something that just cause the Barca board want something to happen it will - your club is in a financial and political mess (huge debt)

There's a detente between City & Barca atm, not sure who negotiated it but they play nicely for the most part of late. And as I said, because of the key people involved (Txiki, Pep & Eric) there is no chance it would descend into anything unprofessional. If the board want the player back, he will be returning - I have no doubt as I trust Domenech, he has never lied in the media with respect to transfers (Esp. involving cantera players as he was one once too). The question really is whether the player was playing Oriol (Which I doubt) or if the board will prioritise him (I also doubt)

Interesting that you site the city board as being professional - thank you. - they are because they are employees of far more powerful and professional people as well (HHH the Sheik and Khaldoon) - these people do not suffer fools at all -any hint of inpropriaty and they would be gone (including Pep and Txixi) -notice how confident Soriano was that we would be found innocent by CAS - there is no way Txixi et al wold risk being in proper (hence why we conduct our transfer business with such integrity as well) as it would directly reflect on some very very powerful people. Its a shame that other clubs do not follow this way of working however -the game in general would have a lot more integrity to it do you think? Have you eer noticed Khaldoon refuses to talk about other players from other clubs even when asked directly? Something to learn there I suggest.

I want it to happen but I think there are so many other transfer variables & priorities that board will give only the illusion of pursuit as Oso said on twitter

nice get out clause incase it doesnt happen - maybe it wont happen cause Barca wont pay the money and we as a club wont budge - equally just as possible. Also equally possible that the player doesnt want to move right now

the only point you make which is valid that of course a player wants to play for his hometown club - like all players do at some point (Aguero has always said he wants to back to his for instance at some point - its the romantic part of the game which no one can deny

Barca are also going to have to get use to not getting their own way even more over the next few years. Once Messi finishes playing (best player in the world for me no doubt) that pull will be gone as well (and its a strong one for a lot of players I have no doubt). Financially you are in a mess so so I suggest you get to use to a more even playing field both on and off it over the next 5-6 years.
 
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