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CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)
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Genuine question(s), how old are you and do you or your carer type the words?
Stanley Unwin is alive and well and posting on Bluemoon.
Whats going on? Two weeks now and still no comment on why it's taking so long to release, yet the journos are still spouting their nonsense. This win was supposed to be when we as a club started fighting back against all the bad press and damage they have caused to our club. Are we going to just plod on as normal as if nothing has happened and allow the smear campaign to continue and just be happy we can play in the UCL next season?
I wouldn't worry about it to be honest, it seems that City are happy for the report to be published as is, so it means the other party are the ones that wants to control what goes public. I imagine that Khaldoon and the legal team are having fun getting concessions from uefa. This is a dirty war and even the good guys have to get their hand dirty occasionally to get a result, this is an ideal opportunity to exploit Uefa and get some cast iron agreements in place for the future . We all would like to see City stick it to eufa, but we will achieve more in the long run if we use this chance to use the black marker pen instead of a dagger .The full report is now a negotiating tool for us .
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Centurions
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Pretty sure they're not, I think City had a serious word and they're keeping the bile in for now.Whats going on? Two weeks now and still no comment on why it's taking so long to release, yet the journos are still spouting their nonsense. This win was supposed to be when we as a club started fighting back against all the bad press and damage they have caused to our club. Are we going to just plod on as normal as if nothing has happened and allow the smear campaign to continue and just be happy we can play in the UCL next season?
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Hi I'm a Man City fan and wondered when you are planning to release the detailed reasons for my clubs recent successful appeal against UFEA? On your website 13th July, it said "The final award with reasons will be published on the CAS website in a few days". There is great curiosity in the man city fan community about the charges brought by UEFA and the successful defence by my club , so I look forward to your reply thank you in advance
John Browne
Hi I'm a Man City fan and wondered when you are planning to release the detailed reasons for my clubs recent successful appeal against UFEA? On your website 13th July, it said "The final award with reasons will be published on the CAS website in a few days". There is great curiosity in the man city fan community about the charges brought by UEFA and the successful defence by my club , so I look forward to your reply thank you in advance
John Browne
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Stop digging. We won. City know what they are doing.
Let's say the full document is 99% in our favour (I can't see it being more than 80%)
Let's also say that in that 99% all sorts of negative information is released about UEFA.
One of two things will happen (because we have already seen the first of these)
1. The 1% will he the headlines and it will be open season on us AGAIN. Football is tribal and the truth will just be dismissed.
2. The clubs vying for even more power WITHIN UEFA (not lobbying) will say UEFA are not fit for purpose and they will gain greater control of the governing body.
The other point to make is that, as Soriano says, UEFA is split between the neutral old guard and the self interested new guard that joined from the ECA under the threat of a breakaway league. It looks to me that City would like to work with the old guard and get rid of the threat within UEFA.
I can't see any positives from the full release. I'd be happy to take the win and move on. I suspect City think the same.
Let's say the full document is 99% in our favour (I can't see it being more than 80%)
Let's also say that in that 99% all sorts of negative information is released about UEFA.
One of two things will happen (because we have already seen the first of these)
1. The 1% will he the headlines and it will be open season on us AGAIN. Football is tribal and the truth will just be dismissed.
2. The clubs vying for even more power WITHIN UEFA (not lobbying) will say UEFA are not fit for purpose and they will gain greater control of the governing body.
The other point to make is that, as Soriano says, UEFA is split between the neutral old guard and the self interested new guard that joined from the ECA under the threat of a breakaway league. It looks to me that City would like to work with the old guard and get rid of the threat within UEFA.
I can't see any positives from the full release. I'd be happy to take the win and move on. I suspect City think the same.
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We won. (though you wouldn't believe it!)
Nothing will change the public perception of our club, especially this report. It will be used against us if possible... And if not they will near totally ignore it, it won't change anything.
Nothing will change the public perception of our club, especially this report. It will be used against us if possible... And if not they will near totally ignore it, it won't change anything.
Rammyblues
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Still imminent then !!1 :-)
Cobwebcat
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I think we all know the answer why the report is not published.
UEFA is going to come out of it badly, no constructive evidence and a lot of confidential details leaked to the media.
We don’t know that at all but, even if it were the case, wouldn’t it be better for UEFA just to know City knew and start to change UEFA from within..its what our true rivals don’t want. A lot of shouting and pointing fingers isn’t always the way forward.
Say City and UEFA are talking behind the scenes. City say we will keep quiet but you have to get rid of the self interested part of UEFA starting with those responsible for the two FFP chambers.
A lot of new headlines won’t help.
City and UEFA will know the complete facts anyway but it the laters case they don't want them in the public domain.We don’t know that at all but, even if it were the case, wouldn’t it be better for UEFA just to know City knew and start to change UEFA from within..its what our true rivals don’t want. A lot of shouting and pointing fingers isn’t always the way forward.
Cobwebcat
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City and UEFA will know the complete facts anyway but it the laters case they don't want them in the public domain.
City may not want that either...it’s political
If UEFA had no evidence , Emails apart and were leaking confidential evidence, I would think City would very want that in the public domain.City may not want that either...it’s political
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It was my understanding that City have declared that they ARE happy for the full details to be made publicCity may not want that either...it’s political
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And the newspapers would report that as " UEFA found guilty of leaking information whilst City avoid yet another ban".If UEFA had no evidence , Emails apart and were leaking confidential evidence, I would think City would very want that in the public domain.
And the main story would be filled with the same slight word change bias that makes us look guilty
Sorry to say but I think it is very very easy to create negative news headlines out of absolutely anything
SilverFox2
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Just wonder who we are negotiating with if indeed UEFE do not want certain things revealed.We don’t know that at all but, even if it were the case, wouldn’t it be better for UEFA just to know City knew and start to change UEFA from within..its what our true rivals don’t want. A lot of shouting and pointing fingers isn’t always the way forward.
Say City and UEFA are talking behind the scenes. City say we will keep quiet but you have to get rid of the self interested part of UEFA starting with those responsible for the two FFP chambers.
A lot of new headlines won’t help.
Has Cef got any power ay all and will the tail that wags the UEFA dog be bothered. They want to retain their power not give it up.
There must be some serious info we have on g## members if serious negotiation can succeed.
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The whole fucking thing is so bent it wouldn't shock me if we were negotiating winning our next 4 CL games in return for allowing the report to never see daylight.
hihosilva
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City are not the corrupt ones. Don't forget.The whole fucking thing is so bent it wouldn't shock me if we were negotiating winning our next 4 CL games in return for allowing the report to never see daylight.