CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

The decision and tone of the CAS findings implies that UEFA have questions to answer in the full report.
 
Keeper! said:
If UEFA had no evidence , Emails apart and were leaking confidential evidence, I would think City would very want that in the public domain.
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Not necessarily - it might be easier to reform UEFA with this hanging over them.
 
Get it released !! I’m sick of this Bollocks

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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
The whole fucking thing is so bent it wouldn't shock me if we were negotiating winning our next 4 CL games in return for allowing the report to never see daylight.
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You maybe onto something here...while negotiations are ongoing about the report they'd probably rather not piss us off with an iffy few game calls.
 
BolinCell said:
I keep hearing that City are happy with the whole report being released. I don't really keep up with the press, where was that quoted and by who.
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Simon Mullock in the Mirror who is one of the very few reliable sources on City in the mainstream media. I am pretty sure it's true as well. Our haters in the press have been very quiet (just as they were before the CAS decision was revealed). As many of us said correctly at the time that silence tells its own story. I am sure the judgement shows UEFA in a very negative light. If it was positive someone at UEFA would have leaked it by now.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Stop digging. We won. City know what they are doing.

Let's say the full document is 99% in our favour (I can't see it being more than 80%)

Let's also say that in that 99% all sorts of negative information is released about UEFA.

One of two things will happen (because we have already seen the first of these)

1. The 1% will he the headlines and it will be open season on us AGAIN. Football is tribal and the truth will just be dismissed.

2. The clubs vying for even more power WITHIN UEFA (not lobbying) will say UEFA are not fit for purpose and they will gain greater control of the governing body.

The other point to make is that, as Soriano says, UEFA is split between the neutral old guard and the self interested new guard that joined from the ECA under the threat of a breakaway league. It looks to me that City would like to work with the old guard and get rid of the threat within UEFA.

I can't see any positives from the full release. I'd be happy to take the win and move on. I suspect City think the same.
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And here you have point 2 from my earlier post (enclosed) UEFA is not the enemy any longer. We have BOTH been used. Don’t let them win. Don’t join in. Forget it. City know it. We can learn it.

It’s very predictable but clever. If UEFA get hammered we LOSE.

 
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nmc. You're looking to reform UEFA from within, well good look with that. The only way to reform UEFA is that everyone that has a seat on any UEFA boards has to resign on masse.

That is the only thing that works for me. That is the one thing that will not happen, because they like the free match tickets and all the other perks that go with the seats on the UEFA boards.

We need to get rid of UEFA and start from scratch. With a brand new boards for everything that UEFA do now.
 
King KdB of Belgium said:
nmc. You're looking to reform UEFA from within, well good look with that. The only way to reform UEFA is that everyone that has a seat on any UEFA boards has to resign on masse.

That is the only thing that works for me. That is the one thing that will not happen, because they like the free match tickets and all the other perks that go with the seats on the UEFA boards.

We need to get rid of UEFA and start from scratch. With a brand new boards for everything that UEFA do now.
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KHR is that you?

Worst idea ever.
 
Cobwebcat said:
And here you have point 2 from my earlier post (enclosed) UEFA is not the enemy any longer. We have BOTH been used. Don’t let them win. Don’t join in. Forget it. City know it. We can learn it.

It’s very predictable but clever. If UEFA get hammered we LOSE.

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The CFCB looks in need of a rebuild anyway, so UEFA can sacrifice that easily enough - that KHR quote alludes to similar.

I doubt that there's much to negotiate about - even if City have ammunition from CAS to do so. As you say, UEFA as a whole is not a target - it's too big to take on head-on.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
The CFCB looks in need of a rebuild anyway, so UEFA can sacrifice that easily enough - that KHR quote alludes to similar.

I doubt that there's much to negotiate about - even if City have ammunition from CAS to do so. As you say, UEFA as a whole is not a target - it's too big to take on head-on.
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Soriano hinted so strongly what was going on in his post FFP CL exclusion address.

Only elements of UEFA are the problem. UEFA realise this themselves now. It’s difficult but it’s better to weed them out than start again with KHR running it..because as sure as eggs is eggs that’s who moves in...then we really are in trouble.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Soriano hinted so strongly what was going on in his post FFP CL exclusion address.

Only elements of UEFA are the problem. UEFA realise this themselves now. It’s difficult but it’s better to weed them out than start again with KHR running it..because as sure as eggs is eggs that’s who moves in...then we really are in trouble.
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Ideally, I could see them rallying the non G14 sides to see if a pressure group can be put together. Who knows, some of the bigger French sides may be happy as PSG are untouchable.
Sadly, I expect City to want to be in the VIP section and keep others down.
 
Cobwebcat what is wrong with that idea. We all know that the boards that at present are running UEFA, are heavily weighed against us. There are person's on UEFA boards from Livarpool, Man Utd, Bayern Munich, and other clubs from Italy and Spain.

If you take all that into consideration my idea isn't that bad an idea is it. If you have a better idea let's be having it.
 
Cobwebcat said:
And here you have point 2 from my earlier post (enclosed) UEFA is not the enemy any longer. We have BOTH been used. Don’t let them win. Don’t join in. Forget it. City know it. We can learn it.

It’s very predictable but clever. If UEFA get hammered we LOSE.

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Why is Rumenigge speaking out on the CAS case? What has a rival club like City got to do with him? This is the man who was fined by the German authorities after being caught smuggling two watches worth £90,000. He was on his way back from a European Club Association meeting in Qatar where he had been given the watches "as a gift." And yet his poisonous comments are always reported without this wider context. Bayern Munich are surely one of most disreputable clubs in Europe.
 
King KdB of Belgium said:
Cobwebcat what is wrong with that idea. We all know that the boards that at present are running UEFA, are heavily weighed against us. There are person's on UEFA boards from Livarpool, Man Utd, Bayern Munich, and other clubs from Italy and Spain.

If you take all that into consideration my idea isn't that bad an idea is it. If you have a better idea let's be having it.
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I’ve already said over and over. The last one is literally 4 posts up
 
Cobwebcat said:
And here you have point 2 from my earlier post (enclosed) UEFA is not the enemy any longer. We have BOTH been used. Don’t let them win. Don’t join in. Forget it. City know it. We can learn it.

It’s very predictable but clever. If UEFA get hammered we LOSE.

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I hate to have a go at City Xtra but I think this is an incomplete quote and changes the meaning of the quote.

If you look at City Report, they have the quote as "The UEFA panel reposnible for UCL matters didn't do a good job."

That's siding with Manchester City and attacking the CFCB Adjudicatory and Investigative Panels.

 
domalino said:
I hate to have a go at City Xtra but I think this is an incomplete quote and changes the meaning of the quote.

If you look at City Report, they have the quote as "The UEFA panel reposnible for UCL matters didn't do a good job."

That's siding with Manchester City and attacking the CFCB Adjudicatory and Investigative Panels.

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No I read that. Wheels within wheels.

BM are one of the worst clubs for this. They run to UEFA all the time and make it look like they are after better Governance.

The same guys that get players to run their contracts down on a Bosman and call it respecting a players contract.

By “didn’t do a good job” he isn’t saying City are innocent

Bayern are not on our side believe me. They want to be in charge of all aspects of UEFA.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Why is Rumenigge speaking out on the CAS case? What has a rival club like City got to do with him? This is the man who was fined by the German authorities after being caught smuggling two watches worth £90,000. He was on his way back from a European Club Association meeting in Qatar where he had been given the watches "as a gift." And yet his poisonous comments are always reported without this wider context. Bayern Munich are surely one of most disreputable clubs in Europe.
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It's a quote from Kicker - it says so. It just means he was asked a question and answered it, probably in a post-season interview, and it's been translated.

There's really nothing wrong with him answering a question - whether you agree with his answer is a different matter.
 
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