That’s true but many players who have played for both were not necessarily Ajax products but people going there as a stepping stone in their careers. The Cruyff connection and the attraction of living on the Med and playing with Messi have been critical in the last twenty years, but things change. As you say, in the 1990s the allure of the Rossonerri/Nerazzurri was greater than elsewhere for Dutch players, and I’m under no illusion that patterns will shift once more. Neither your club nor ours can afford to think otherwise.