Eric Garcia to Barcelona

[doobyedoobye]

Good enough then, that's how you get games

Not just good enough but the absolute best ever. I would like him to relax his criteria for some of the next gen of local academy graduates

 

[@BluePhil8]

PRetty sure that only works in England. Hence why you get some dubious transfers of English youth players on frees to never heard of foreign sides, who then sell them to other English sides on the cheap as a way around. Leicester bought George Hirst off Sheffield Wednesday that way iirc

Dortmund has to pay us £8m via tribunal didn’t they? For Sancho? Or did we sell him?

 

[pudge]

I believe kids refer to this as 'negotiating'. Barca leaked they intend to offer 10M + variables and City come back to leak they value him much higher

There was something about the tenor of Pep's responses and not actually mentioning Barca that made me wonder. Now, makes more sense that they don't intend to be steamrolled by just any offer.

Of course, I can also confirm without any sources needed that there's no way Barca will pay more than 10-15M for a player that is seen as left via the backdoor. Now that Pep confirmed the player will leave, it means it frees the player to respond to questions and if City take a strong stance then Barca will pressure to play things out in the media along with influencing the player to apply pressure too. There's already bad blood there despite professionalism. If you're City you also don't want to alienate potential cantera kids from coming if they sense they will be punished when looking for an exit. No one will want it to drag on until winter when he can sign for free. It's delicate so I do think the messaging reflects that too.

But if it gets played out in the media, well it won't be pretty or good for anyone. A big reason why I still believe it will ultimately go smoothly considering those involved (Puyol, Eric, Pep & Txiki) - City will not want to look foolish and Barca will ultimately let them save some face. Perhaps then 10M will become 15M as a compromise (Along with bonuses) to get it done sooner

"Let us save face"?

He's our player.

You either pay now or you wait, fuck right off with your entitled nonsense.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

I thought he’s looked ok in the games we’ve played him but if he’s set on leaving I’m not overly concerned. If we can get a few quid for him, so much the better.

good luck Eric

 

[himalayan_blues]

If Garcia stays until next season and then leaves, would we not get a fee set by a tribunal. Similar to the dippers having to pay £6.5m for Danny Ings from Burnley in 2015. Or am I barking up the wrong tree.

we got around 12 million for sturridge from similar situation.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Our business is winning football matches, if Garcia can help us do so, he plays.

On that case we won't see him again ;)

 

[ctid1894]

Calm down Mother Theresa. He isn't good enough anyway in my view. He is no longer committed by his actions. That 50 50 tackle.......

I'm perfectly calm, hence the rationale, unlike the angry lynch mob who can't control their emotions when a player wants to leave.

 

[ganganvince]

PRetty sure that only works in England. Hence why you get some dubious transfers of English youth players on frees to never heard of foreign sides, who then sell them to other English sides on the cheap as a way around. Leicester bought George Hirst off Sheffield Wednesday that way iirc

There would be a fee under FIFA's compensation scheme although it would be shite eg below.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/foot...er-rule-which-benefits-scottish-clubs-1414555

 

[CC1]

I believe kids refer to this as 'negotiating'. Barca leaked they intend to offer 10M + variables and City come back to leak they value him much higher

There was something about the tenor of Pep's responses and not actually mentioning Barca that made me wonder. Now, makes more sense that they don't intend to be steamrolled by just any offer.

Of course, I can also confirm without any sources needed that there's no way Barca will pay more than 10-15M for a player that is seen as left via the backdoor. Now that Pep confirmed the player will leave, it means it frees the player to respond to questions and if City take a strong stance then Barca will pressure to play things out in the media along with influencing the player to apply pressure too. There's already bad blood there despite professionalism. If you're City you also don't want to alienate potential cantera kids from coming if they sense they will be punished when looking for an exit. No one will want it to drag on until winter when he can sign for free. It's delicate so I do think the messaging reflects that too.

But if it gets played out in the media, well it won't be pretty or good for anyone. A big reason why I still believe it will ultimately go smoothly considering those involved (Puyol, Eric, Pep & Txiki) - City will not want to look foolish and Barca will ultimately let them save some face. Perhaps then 10M will become 15M as a compromise (Along with bonuses) to get it done sooner

You’ve gone from being a non-City fan contributor, to a patronising, rather arrogant intruder. Just for your info, over the last 10 years City have become an established well run club & unlike your club, have no debt. That’s why UEFA members , including your club’s heirarchy tried to get us out of CL.
We’re pretty knowledgeable fans too, so we don’t need your advice.
Contribute to OUR forum but don’t tell us what we should do.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Our business is winning football matches, if Garcia can help us do so, he plays.

I don’t think he’ll ever play another minute for us.

 

[WestGorton]

I'm perfectly calm, hence the rationale, unlike the angry lynch mob who can't control their emotions when a player wants to leave.

Who has proposed a lynching? I said don't play him again. Calm down.

 

[ctid1894]

Ake has pulled his guts out for Bournrmouth though. Garcia has done nothing.
Even if you are happy to give your best, you are doing it as an outsider & taking someones shirt.

Leroy was bottom of the pile before he went.

Exactly, as you so clearly put it, it depends on the individual. Unless you know the lad personally, you're in no position to judge him on his character. If he plays or not depends on how he's performing in training, bottom line for me.

 

[Maly]

If Garcia stays until next season and then leaves, would we not get a fee set by a tribunal. Similar to the dippers having to pay £6.5m for Danny Ings from Burnley in 2015. Or am I barking up the wrong tree.

Pretty much correct yes mate

 

[sir baconface]

Just a short-arsed Mediterranean George Heslop.

Adios Eric.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Exactly, as you so clearly put it, it depends on the individual. Unless you know the lad personally, you're in no position to judge him on his character. If he plays or not depends on how he's performing in training, bottom line for me.

I'm saying he shouldn't get games in front of players who want to stay & play in the team, irrespective of 'character'. He isn't one of 'us' anymore.

(And he's shite anyway & doesn't deserve a shirt but that's not the discussion)

 

[Gabriel]

Our business is winning football matches, if Garcia can help us do so, he plays.

Fair enough, but do you think he’ll start?

He wasn’t good enough even to make the squad when we went to Madrid and has no Champions League experience at all. Our weakness was again cruelly exposed by Arsenal where his lack of pace and communication with Walker were exploited. Real Madrid already know it is in the channel between Walker/whoever that we are frail, see goal in Madrid, so they’ll flood that area with Benzena/Hazard/Valverde/Marcelo or Mendy. I doubt Garcia has the experience, speed, or physicality to help us in this game, but if he can, I’ll be happy to be wrong.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

City are fucking livid with Garcia, to put it mildly.

Last month they were pretty certain he had agreed to a new five-year offer and would sort it when the Premier League season was done.

After everything Pep has done for him, playing him every week, that's got to be a bitter pill.

Personally, because we're fans of varying shades of perspective, I'd never let him play for us again, certainly not tomorrow night.

Does it also mean we lose a club trained/home grown body?

I had been told not to write John Stones off just yet and this would support the argument we need to keep him as our only naturally right-sided centre back option.

He has less than two years left on his own deal, so this Garcia announcement certainly gives Stones a strong hand in any negotiations.

 

[simon23]

Losing Sane hurt

Losing Garcia wont. He is a good player and will do well at Barca/Spanish League but he has no long term future in the premiership.....he neither has the pace or physicality for it and whereas they are not completely essential they do help and if you look at all the very top centre halves whether ours or other teams they all have these aspects to them - Kompany, VVD, Laporte, Terry. He is a grea ball playing centre half but playing in our high line will get roasted by teams playing the ball in behind and over the top

Id snap barca's hands off for 10m - 15m for him - he will develop to be worth more than that but he wont play in the prem league again. No other prem team fighting for the league would have him at centre half

 

[cjn]

I had been told not to write John Stones off just yet and this would support the argument we need to keep him as our only naturally right-sided centre back option.

He has less than two years left on his own deal, so this Garcia announcement certainly gives Stones a strong hand in any negotiations.

How? He just got benched by a 19 year old. Who could we possibly be bidding against trying to resign John Stones?

 

[BongoBlue]

City are fucking livid with Garcia, to put it mildly.

Last month they were pretty certain he had agreed to a new five-year offer and would sort it when the Premier League season was done.

After everything Pep has done for him, playing him every week, that's got to be a bitter pill.

Personally, because we're fans of varying shades of perspective, I'd never let him play for us again, certainly not tomorrow night.

Does it also mean we lose a club trained/home grown body?

I had been told not to write John Stones off just yet and this would support the argument we need to keep him as our only naturally right-sided centre back option.

He has less than two years left on his own deal, so this Garcia announcement certainly gives Stones a strong hand in any negotiations.

Sounds like his head was turned in the meantime then...? But then again, surely Barca wouldn't do that...;)