Holiday advice

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denislawsbackheel said:
Just got back from Italy via Ryanair.
A few home truths.
Ryanair could not give a flying fuck about covid safety.
The usual pre covid bun fight to get to your seat and locker space.
Got on the outward flight and had to remove sweets and crisp remnants off our seats.
Cleaned, are they fuck! We landed in Italy and it’s the usual palaver with every twat and his sister trying to get their bags down before they even open the doors.
safe distancing? People were in your face getting off.
During the flight though, if you want a piss you have to ring and ask permission.
Not that anybody did.
I thought I ‘d be clever and fill in the UK passenger contact form on line.
Needn’t have bothered, no one asked to see it.
But I didn’t know about the paper one Ryanair make you fill in at boarding!
Weren’t interested about the Yougov form, this one is for the company sir.

last time I’ll fly with them. Especially when they get their first 737 MAXs delivered.
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used to love flying as a kid in the 70s and 80s; it was just a lot classier and it was Ryanair who changed that model with a race to the bottom in standards and services - now you're just waiting to get screwed somewhere on the journey by some technicality you were tricked into ticking when booking online...oh and those bloody security queues at the airports could of been devised by a Japanese endurance game show

think I’ll save up for private jet
 
AlgarveBlu said:
used to love flying as a kid in the 70s and 80s; it was just a lot classier and it was Ryanair who changed that model with a race to the bottom in standards and services - now you're just waiting to get screwed somewhere on the journey by some technicality you were tricked into ticking when booking online...oh and those bloody security queues at the airports could of been devised by a Japanese endurance game show

think I’ll save up for private jet
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"flying in the 70s and 80s" how cheap was it then ? And where and how often could you fly ?
Ryanair and other low cost carriers get you to where you are going it's your fellow travelers who are the cunts.
 
lastmanback said:
"flying in the 70s and 80s" how cheap was it then ? And where and how often could you fly ?
Ryanair and other low cost carriers get you to where you are going it's your fellow travelers who are the cunts.
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cost wise I don’t know as my parents paid thankfully and accept there is far more choice in locations now, granted there was no iPhones back when I’m talking about but there seems to be a daily download in the media of a cabin brawl and saw a pissed up altercation with cabin staff being abused just last year on easy jet flying into Manc. (Overhead luggage I think it was)

just saying the whole experience feels grim compared to flying national carriers. Iceland Air last year that was just a totally different experience serene and pleasant and just 350 return into Manchester.
 
Went to France last week via Eurotunnel. Completed the Government online form that is required to be done 48 hours before returning. Bloke at the passport booth in France glanced at it on my phone. Odd.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Just got back from Italy via Ryanair.
A few home truths.
Ryanair could not give a flying fuck about covid safety.
The usual pre covid bun fight to get to your seat and locker space.
Got on the outward flight and had to remove sweets and crisp remnants off our seats.
Cleaned, are they fuck! We landed in Italy and it’s the usual palaver with every twat and his sister trying to get their bags down before they even open the doors.
safe distancing? People were in your face getting off.
During the flight though, if you want a piss you have to ring and ask permission.
Not that anybody did.
I thought I ‘d be clever and fill in the UK passenger contact form on line.
Needn’t have bothered, no one asked to see it.
But I didn’t know about the paper one Ryanair make you fill in at boarding!
Weren’t interested about the Yougov form, this one is for the company sir.

last time I’ll fly with them. Especially when they get their first 737 MAXs delivered.
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If any airline informs you they have deep cleaned your seats prior to lift off then it's probably best to take them with a pinch of salt. It would appear that everyone post Covid is busy chatting shit to gain your custom, so at all times the mantra should be one of pro-activity and protecting yourself. We were recently in Marks and Spencer for our afternoon Rishi coffee and carrot cake sesh and whilst we idly chatted concerning the nuances of the day we watched their staff deep clean tables ready for the next customer to dine. The lady sat next door but one had left and her table was regrettably missed out alongside many more. The table was replaced by a mother, grandmother and two children who filled their boots to the £10 max of everything the flagship eatery could offer. If the previous customer had of been Covid positive then these poor unfortunates would truly have had their chips. Wherever we rest our legs we disinfect all surfaces with a diluted mix of 20% zoflora in a 100 ml travel spray bottle with disposable tissues and then we can be sure the task is complete. When we very shortly board our own aircraft we will get on last and if the aircraft has an empty space of three or four rows then that is where we shall settle regardless that we paid for our seats at the front. We shall also disinfect the area and adjoining seat areas to minimize transmission of airborne nasties. There will be no alcoholic in flight drinks ordered to minimize cabin movement and we shall take our own scotch eggs pies and snacks to minimize unnecessary contact with our hostesses. Even pre-covid I've never understood the barm pots that jump up in the ales as the aircraft stops and then stand staring into space for 5 to 10 minutes to disembark. We can never truly isolate the virus but we can take sensible precautions to avoid it. Hope you enjoyed your run into the Italian countryside and vinyards.
 
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Two Gun Bob said:
If any airline informs you they have deep cleaned your seats prior to lift off then it's probably best to take them with a pinch of salt. It would appear that everyone post Covid is busy chatting shit to gain your custom, so at all times the mantra should be one of pro-activity and protecting yourself. We were recently in Marks and Spencer for our afternoon Rishi coffee and carrot cake sesh and whilst we idly chatted concerning the nuances of the day we watched their staff deep clean tables ready for the next customer to dine. The lady sat next door but one had left and her table was regrettably missed out alongside many more. The table was replaced by a mother, grandmother and two children who filled their boots to the £10 max with everything the flagship eatery could offer. If the previous customer had of been Covid positive then these poor unfortunates would truly have had their chips. Wherever we rest our legs we disinfect all surfaces with a diluted mix of 20% zoflora in a 100 ml travel spray bottle with disposable tissues and then we can be sure the task is complete. When we very shortly board our own aircraft we will get on last and if the aircraft has an empty space of three or four rows then that is where we shall settle regardless that we paid for our seats at the front. We shall also disinfect the area and adjoining seat areas to minimize transmission of airborne nasties. There will be no alcoholic in flight drinks ordered to minimize cabin movement and we shall take our own scotch eggs pies and snacks to minimize unnecessary contact with our hostesses. Even pre-covid I've never understood the barm pots that jump up in the ales as the aircraft stops and then stand staring into space for 5 to 10 minutes to disembark. We can never truly isolate the virus but we can take sensible precautions to avoid it. Hope you enjoyed your run into the Italian countryside and vinyards.
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god i love you,will you write an very long book,just so i can read your words, FOREVER :)
 
Two Gun Bob said:
If any airline informs you they have deep cleaned your seats prior to lift off then it's probably best to take them with a pinch of salt. It would appear that everyone post Covid is busy chatting shit to gain your custom, so at all times the mantra should be one of pro-activity and protecting yourself. We were recently in Marks and Spencer for our afternoon Rishi coffee and carrot cake sesh and whilst we idly chatted concerning the nuances of the day we watched their staff deep clean tables ready for the next customer to dine. The lady sat next door but one had left and her table was regrettably missed out alongside many more. The table was replaced by a mother, grandmother and two children who filled their boots to the £10 max of everything the flagship eatery could offer. If the previous customer had of been Covid positive then these poor unfortunates would truly have had their chips. Wherever we rest our legs we disinfect all surfaces with a diluted mix of 20% zoflora in a 100 ml travel spray bottle with disposable tissues and then we can be sure the task is complete. When we very shortly board our own aircraft we will get on last and if the aircraft has an empty space of three or four rows then that is where we shall settle regardless that we paid for our seats at the front. We shall also disinfect the area and adjoining seat areas to minimize transmission of airborne nasties. There will be no alcoholic in flight drinks ordered to minimize cabin movement and we shall take our own scotch eggs pies and snacks to minimize unnecessary contact with our hostesses. Even pre-covid I've never understood the barm pots that jump up in the ales as the aircraft stops and then stand staring into space for 5 to 10 minutes to disembark. We can never truly isolate the virus but we can take sensible precautions to avoid it. Hope you enjoyed your run into the Italian countryside and vinyards.
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Certainly did.
Unfortunately we had no facility to bring back some of the amazing wines we tasted.
We too used bleach cleaning sheets to clean the seat backs, trays, arm rests and buckles.
No food was available on the flight, only cold drinks.
 
ballinio said:
Pay the rest on a credit card , they must re pay you when they cancel the holiday, if they go bust your covered by the credit card company , i’m Supposed to be going in June as well , it’s not going to be happening but you’ll get it all back if you complete the payment .....when is a different matter
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This is sound advice. If you simply ignore or worse cancel you are breaking the contract. The EU Package Travel Regs protect you if they make a significant change to the package also Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act covets you if you use your credit card and they go broke or breach the contract.
 
If anybody is looking to go away in Autumn but nervous about booking, there are tons of hotels on booking.com with free cancellation and no prepayment needed. I've just taken advantage of this and if things go belly up in the next few weeks I can simply cancel.

I will need to book and pay for flights but at least it will just be on the only thing I'd need to dispute should things change and it's a lot cheaper than accommodation costs.
 
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So we boarded on time for our flight to the home of civilisation and Zeus's birthplace Crete with the amazing TUI displaying the same levels of stoic attention to detail and par excellence that our Germanic chums quite rightly revel in. Masks were worn throughout the flight and cabin air recirculated and hepa purified to calm the worrisome amongst us. And yes I am fully aware covid can nip through a hepa filter quicker than I can get my underpants on but the thought was there and we felt relatively safe. On arrival we maintained safe distance like the ordilary sausages we are. Depending on your QR code you either got swabbed or you didn't. Coming from the Dorf as opposed to Oldham or Roccadale we went through with a cheery smile but there was a big chap like Dexter the cerial killer waiting in wellies plastic apron and a bag full of swabs to grip the unwary. I am led to believe from Nigel our TUI rep that 2's go through and odd numbers commencing 1's are checked. Resort is quite and the pubs and bars now have to close at 12 which is fine unless you are a clubber. The authorities have taken this action to curb the clubbing and problems with social distances this incurs. All hotels and shops have gel stations and masks to be worn on public transport. Stalls is a resort geared for families and older couples and the majority are observing social distancing. We actually feel safer than back home in Rochdale or Oldham.. Before we came we isolated for 5 days to not only protect ourself but also the locals. Not going on any trips to maintain safe protocol but its not getting in the way of pleasure and or relaxation and everythings open . Stay safe..keep smiling.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
It's just really not worth it, is it.
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Your absolutely right blue. Its just simply not worth it. Who in their right mind wants to stay in the epicentre of the UK covid pandemic. We for one could not wait to bail out of G.M. Stay safe lad and only go out for bare necessities. Yamas!
 
2 weeks self isolation is fine if your circumstances allow. I don't have kids etc so have been able to stay in without any fuss since flying home the other week. Taking temperature twice daily and still way below COVID temperature and still feeling fine too. Only 5 more days until I can go back out. You will see greater safety practices in the airport than you would at the supermarket.
 
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