Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

[momo88]

Just to clarify we went to Liverpool and he got his usual knockout champions league yips. He played the main man Gundo on the right instead of Sterling. It was an absolute head scratcher before the game but not as much as Saturday’s line up. Spurs away we played Gundo ahead of KDB and tried to control the game rather than attack and score away goals against a very average side. Yes Sergio missed a pen but we created next to nothing aside from that and he didn’t stick Sané and KDB on until about 3 minutes left. Shocker not scoring away cost us. Over those 3 games where Pep has lost his bollocks we’ve managed 1 goal. Let’s not pretend Pep went for it in those other defeats because he didn’t until he had no choice.

I can add

The reality

During the last CL final games except Lyon :

Away

Couldn't score in Monaco, Liverpool and Spurs

Couldn't keep a clean shit at home or at least just limiting it to 1 goal

Shipped 3 goals from Monaco
2 or 3 from Liverpool
3 from Spurs

There is nothing genius about that, im not a knee jerk but even with a bottom defensive Manager City wouldn't have done worse

The approach is not good, the movement of the ball is slow, sometimes you feel we have no players who can pass and controll long balls in order to win spaces.

Add to that the pure talent of some players, that PSG 2nd goal wouldn't have been scored 9/10 it wasn't for Neymar skill who handle it perfectly.

Before any of this games, you would think City is going to smash it, then the line up come out, after 5 minutes of the gale you feel that City team is simply overrated and cannot dominate and then end up crashing out

Someting is missing it just takes the opposition to score one first goal and City crumble, it is becoming a rarity that City win from a losing position.

 

[momo88]

No one is talking about why pep of all the manager went for cautious line up .
He has zero trust on defenders and that is a must fix this window.

The defenders he bought. We are in 2020 not 2016

 

[Chi-town blues]

The defenders he bought. We are in 2020 not 2016

Bruh it’s always a hit and miss about buying players .

 

[domalino]

The defenders he bought. We are in 2020 not 2016

He has only bought 2 centre backs, and it's not really his fault Stones has gone to pieces off the pitch and Laporte still isn't back to his form prior to the injury.

We know he desperately wanted a CB last summer and didn't get one.

Time to fix it.

 

[Keeper!]

He has only bought 2 centre backs, and it's not really his fault Stones has gone to pieces off the pitch and Laporte still isn't back to his form prior to the injury.

We know he desperately wanted a CB last summer and didn't get one.

Time to fix it.

Stones has had 6 great months in 4 seasons, Otto legs gone, Kompany gone, and what did Pep do, spend 60m on a back up RB.

 

[domalino]

Stones has had 6 great months in 4 seasons, Otto legs gone, Kompany gone, and what did Pep do, spend 60m on a back up RB.

Firstly no one spent 60m on a back up RB.

Secondly, Pep made it 100% clear to everyone he wanted a CB, and the club didn't get him one. That's not his fault.

 

[Keeper!]

Firstly no one spent 60m on a back up RB.

Secondly, Pep made it 100% clear to everyone he wanted a CB, and the club didn't get him one. That's not his fault.

34 million plus Danilo, Danilo cost us 24 million so either way, Cancelo cost a hell of a lot of money.

Why is it not his fault? Was he forced to buy Cancelo?

Pep is the greatest manager in our history but he is not beyond criticism.

 

[mccity]

No one is talking about why pep of all the manager went for cautious line up .
He has zero trust on defenders and that is a must fix this window.

 

[domalino]

34 million plus Danilo, Danilo cost us 24 million so either way, Cancelo cost a hell of a lot of money.

Why is it not his fault? Was he forced to buy Cancelo?

Pep is the greatest manager in our history but he is not beyond criticism.

He's not beyond criticism, but it makes sense to criticise him for things that are his fault, and not just try to attribute every mistake at the club to Guardiola.

It's not his fault we didn't have a new CB, and he certainly didn't decide the fee to pay for Cancelo, not that it was relevant to the rest of our spending anyway.

Also it was £25m plus Danilo, who was worth about £20m max - frankly we'd have been lucky to get that much for him after 2 mediocre seasons - but that's up to Txiki not Pep.

 

[momo88]

We lost a one-off game in exceptional circumstances to a decent side, which if it had been over the regular two legs, would probably have been different. Embarrassment is losing to Shrewsbury and Halifax not losing to Lyon.

No Sire,

City lost 4 years in a row against Monaco Liverpool Spurs and Lyon. Not against Bayern, Barca and Madrid

I can add before Lyon in 2 legs, with a return leg at home except Monaco, City lost all 3 games away without scoring a goal

Couldn't keep a clean sheet or least 1 goal at home

 

[Keeper!]

He's not beyond criticism, but it makes sense to criticise him for things that are his fault, and not just try to attribute every mistake at the club to Guardiola.

It's not his fault we didn't have a new CB, and he certainly didn't decide the fee to pay for Cancelo, not that it was relevant to the rest of our spending anyway.

Also it was £25m plus Danilo, who was worth about £20m max - frankly we'd have been lucky to get that much for him after 2 mediocre seasons.

The official figure is 31 million, my point is that Cancelo was an expensive luxury , especially since he has hardly featured.

The fact remains we went into the season with 3 CB, Laporte, Stones and Otto. The latter 2 had serious question marks against them.

Who was responsible? Pep? Tixki or both? It was a serious error of judgement.

Especially considering our best CB was a 33 yr old CM player.

 

[domalino]

No Sire,

City lost 4 years in a row against Monaco Liverpool Spurs and Lyon. Not against Bayern, Barca and Madrid

I can add before Lyon in 2 legs, with a return leg at home except Monaco, City lost all 3 games away without scoring a goal

Couldn't keep a clean sheet or least 1 goal at home

Who is it you want to be the manager?

 

[domalino]

The official figure is 31 million, my point is that Cancelo was an expensive luxury , especially since he has hardly featured.

The fact remains we went into the season with 3 CB, Laporte, Stones and Otto. The latter 2 had serious question marks against them.

Who was responsible? Pep? Tixki or both? It was a serious error of judgement.

Especially considering our best CB was a 33 yr old CM player.

Again this is a Txiki discussion not a Pep one, but how was Cancelo an expensive luxury? When has having a 3rd fullback been considered a luxury?

If Walker had gotten injured, he could have played every game for 6 months.

And please enlighten us on all the other RB's we should have bought to replace Danilo (who decided he wanted to leave) who would have cost nothing? Or at least cost us less than the <40m Cancelo actually cost.

Fact is, Pep wanted a CB and the club didn't deliver him one.

No wonder he then doesn't trust the defenders in big games, he didn't trust them before the season either.

 

[momo88]

He's not beyond criticism, but it makes sense to criticise him for things that are his fault, and not just try to attribute every mistake at the club to Guardiola.

It's not his fault we didn't have a new CB, and he certainly didn't decide the fee to pay for Cancelo, not that it was relevant to the rest of our spending anyway.

Also it was £25m plus Danilo, who was worth about £20m max - frankly we'd have been lucky to get that much for him after 2 mediocre seasons - but that's up to Txiki not Pep.

Correct me if i am wrong Pep bought Danilo? I (all of us) don't know what happened in behind closed doors, but not many manager will have the luxury to shift a players 2 years after to buy a more expensive "almost" back up left back

 

[Keeper!]

Again this is a Txiki discussion not a Pep one, but how was Cancelo an expensive luxury? When has having a 3rd fullback been considered a luxury?

If Walker had gotten injured, he could have played every game for 6 months.

And please enlighten us on all the other RB's we should have bought to replace Danilo (who decided he wanted to leave) who would have cost nothing? Or at least cost us less than the <40m Cancelo actually cost.

Fact is, Pep wanted a CB and the club didn't deliver him one.

No wonder he then doesn't trust the defenders in big games, he didn't trust them before the season either.

A 3rd full back at 50-60 million is a outrageous luxury, especially when Walker has consistently performed since his arrival and is rarely injured and if you think Pep and Tixki don't consult each other your dreaming.

I don't give a dam about RB;s but I do care when we go into a 60 game season with 3 CB and 2 who were dubious at best.

Lets not forget the formidables, the title was completed with Kompany and Laporte, Pep had lost all trust in Stones and Otto.

It was a crazy, crazy decision, and as said, someone should be hammered for it.

 

[domalino]

Correct me if i am wrong Pep bought Danilo? I (all of us) don't know what happened in behind closed doors, but not many manager will have the luxury to shift a players 2 years after to buy a more expensive "almost" back up left back

Who do you want to be manager?

 

[domalino]

A 3rd full back at 50-60 million is a outrageous luxury, especially when Walker has consistently performed since his arrival and is rarely injured.

I don't give a dam about RB;s but I do care when we go into a 60 game season with 3 CB and 2 who were dubious at best.

Lets not forget the formidables, the title was completed with Kompany and Laporte, Pep had lost all trust in Stones and Otto.

It was a crazy, crazy decision, and as said, someone should be hammered for it.

He didn't cost that much money though, and you know it. £27m plus Danilo is not, and never will be £60m. So stop pretending he cost £60m and used up the CB budget. Everyone knows it's a lie.

And you know Guardiola wanted a CB all summer and didn't want to go into the season with just Otamendi, Stones and Laporte.

So perhaps direct your whining to the Txiki thread? Or the scouting thread?

Or just criticise Pep for the mistakes he made.

 

[Coatigan]

I think with the rapid success we have seen over the last decade, a level of entitlement has inevitably come with that. Similar to other 'historically' and currently successful clubs, nothing unexpected in that i guess.

What is somewhat less unsurprising, is that their fans seem to project that entitlement outwards, and belittle the achievements and progress of other clubs. While it seems a large chunk of ours, on here at least, project that entitlement inward, belittling our own players/managers achievements.

Like or dislike pep all you want, but seeing claims he has that two titles has all he has won and that others are doing/ have done better/would do better right now is just not on.

 

[Keeper!]

He didn't cost that much money though, and you know it.

And you know Guardiola wanted a CB.

So perhaps direct your whining to the Txiki thread.

LOL take off the tinted glasses

We have spent over 150m on full backs, Walker excellent the others CRAP

 

[vmsuhail]

Who is it you want to be the manager?

I'll take Pochettino or Zidane if Pep doesn't want to extend. Now, surely Pep is a better manager than Pochettino, but this is more about a change and a new voice, as Pep has already stated before that staying for a long time isn't for him. If he is up for the challenge of a minor rebuild and feels he still has it to motivate this group of players for the next 3 years then I'm all for it.