Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

[Dobsy]

Pretty sure the Webster ruling doesn't apply to Messi guys. He was over 28 when he signed his last contract at Barca, so he can only use the webster rule within two years of signing. He renewed in 2017.

Am I reading the rule wrong?

Yes.

Edit: No.

Edit: I don't know.

 

[BedsBlue68]

Yep. None of the so called experts seem to know what the Webster rule is. Doesn’t fit the script

There was a subsequent case at the CAS - Matuzalem which basically says that the compensation should represent the damages to the club from the contract being broken. In the case of Barca and Messi this could i suspect be huge.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=fba98d9f-52d1-403a-8b6d-39a356cfec33

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/20/webster-ruling-matuzalem-cas-compensation

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I used to get my hair cut off the same hairdresser as Aguero in Oldham. Apparently the shop/his barber was snowed under in the shop so he couldn't drive down to Aguero's to do his weekly cut, so instead Aguero rolled up to the barbers in his flash motor with Otamendi and Zinchenko. Apparently according to the hairdresser's in the shop they just walked in and sat down waiting for their hair cuts like regular blokes! Hahah!

Apparently there were a few city fans in there at the time just star struck like what the f*** is going on!

Moral to the story, maybe they might see Messi in there at some point!

Hope he doesn't go on Thursday market day can be a bugger to park a Yaris let alone something bigger.

 

[Neville Kneville]

It's not that we struggle in most aspects of our play without Sergio but clinical finishing seems to drop off. Most of the defeats this year were where we had 70% possession, more than 15 shots yet failed to convert the opportunities. Gabriel adds a lot to our overall play in terms of pressing, movement and tracking back his only flaw is he can sometimes miss chances. I would really want him to stay because he's improving so much year on year but if we are to get this deal done Barca will probably want a forward - for me that would always be Mahrez as Messi and Torres offer ample cover but unfortunately it seems Barca don't want him. All speculation of course but we will know soon enough.

Well if we ditch Jesus, we are then much more desperate for a cf than we are for Messi.

I'm not sure who we can guarantee to replace Jesus & for how much.

 

[leo_city]

 

[manimanc]

One thing we’ve learned recently is that these football journalists are absolutely useless and cannot report anything remotely accurate or unbiased particularly in anything off the football pitch. Bunch of twunts.

If they slag us off or put us down or try to make us look stupid then guaranteed clicks and hits.
Praise us and give us credit equals less hits and clicks.

IF we sign Messi I'm intrigued to see just how these one eyed, bitter, anti city nobheads in the press try to be negative with one of the best players of the generation.

 

[lancs blue]

Pretty sure the Webster ruling doesn't apply to Messi guys. He was over 28 when he signed his last contract at Barca, so he can only use the webster rule within two years of signing. He renewed in 2017.

Am I reading the rule wrong?

Yes.

Under 28 a player has to wait until he's 3 years into the contract before he's allowed to invoke the Webster rule, if he signs a new contract after 28 he can invoke it 2 years into that contract.

 

[dcye]

Pretty sure the Webster ruling doesn't apply to Messi guys. He was over 28 when he signed his last contract at Barca, so he can only use the webster rule within two years of signing. He renewed in 2017.

Am I reading the rule wrong?

I'm no legal expert but I'm pretty sure you've got it backwards. They can only do it after two years of the contract have expired, not within two years.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Yes.

Edit: No.

Edit: I don't know.

You're right! The time limit confused me. I thought it meant you only had two years to terminate your contract. But it means you have to wait two years before you can.

 

[Coatigan]

There is no way anyone at our club wants to dick Barcelona about playing hardball, from khaldoon right down to pep, for different reasons. I have no doubt they would be prepared to pay for this to happen, rather than making it a battle and a legal and media mud slinging. Alternatively they can stay out of it and let it unfold between messi and barca, but i think theyd happily step in with money to avoid any negativity.

But no way are they going to bend over and stick their bums out either, or pay over the top for someone they Could get for free with a bit of bravado.

So to me it is all on Barcelona, how cheeky and stubborn they want to be. If they go down the 150m or various top players route, then itl push messi and us to stick with pushing the clause. if they go reasonable, say garcia and 50m, maybe even Angelino (still 100m's worth that), then it could happen quickly and painless for everyone.

 

[Bobby Heaton Moor]

English media really starting to dig their scouse-obsessed heels in on this. They don't want this to happen. Praying we can get it over the line

 

[razman]

 

[chesterbells]

He’s reliable Jack, isn’t he?

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

Only city would be stupid enough to sell Jesus as part of the deal leaving us with only 1 injury prone striker for what is sure to be the most challenging season in terms of condensed games we have ever had.

Christ.

I suggest you wait before describing us as stupid; here's your briefing

 

[chesterbells]

... is that “according to Barca” ?

 

[leo_city]

Yeah could never really expect him to leave on a free really, the biggest hurdle is negotiating a fair deal.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Well paying that termimation clause aint going to happen

 

[@BluePhil8]

Funny, as much as I like Mahrez I actually think him and Garcia in exchange for Messi would be brilliant for all parties.

We lose their wages, Barca get a very competent winger who’s won the PFA, AFCON, Premier League etc who plays on Messi’s flank etc.

I can’t see any trades though, think we’ll put it through as €100m to Barca and then as a separate deal they’ll give us €30m for Garcia.

 

[MillsyTheMosher]

I suggest you wait before describing us as stupid; here's your briefing

Get in !!!

Knew it.

Pep, Txiki, Ferran i apologise.

Now lets get Leo signed.

 

[FCBarca]

We need to step back from all this noise.

If we assume that Messi is genuine in his desire to leave, eventually Barca will have to accept that, if they haven't already. Does Barca want an unhappy Messi on the books? The answer is no, so even if they could force him to stay with legal shenanigans, what would be the point? And if they accept he's leaving why would they create a financial barrier so high that no club could leap it?

First, I do not believe Bartomeu is willing to accept any exit unless he can have control of the narrative/terms of said exit.

Two, I am on the fence as to whether Bartomeu believed Messi would follow through on a threatened exit or even wonder whether this was not always his goal anyway - I just think the timing (Esp. due to COVID) probably was not something he saw coming.

Three, I do not believe Bartomeu cares whether Leo is happy now or not - now it is about saving his remaining mandate along with a continuity candidate

Four, the money matters for Bartomeu - particularly because the club is paralyzed on multiple fronts without it or Messi, there is a domino effect there that even Barto & his stooges cannot spin into gold. Ideally for Barto he'd get a high fee + player exchange along with a public Messi exit ceremony where he can recapture some credibility although I doubt very much he'll get the latter.