Players do not go from amazing to rubbish to amazing again the space of a season. The truth is probably was not as good as people thought when he was in the Netherlands not as bad as people thought when he was here and probably not as good as people think he is now after his time in Germany
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Players do not go from amazing to rubbish to amazing again the space of a season. The truth is probably was not as good as people thought when he was in the Netherlands not as bad as people thought when he was here and probably not as good as people think he is now after his time in Germany
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Sounds too detailed to be nonsense: €18m obligation (£16.4m)
I guess he was always going to be a guy that wouldn’t stay here long. When we bought him for the price we did, it was a clear case of spotting an opportunity for very easy profit towards FFP. He was rated at around 20-25m at the time being linked to PSG. So it was guaranteed profit.
Since that moment Angelino has had a very successful loan and made it into the Champions League Squad of the Season. His stock has risen. So to do a deal for 2m euros upfront and the possibility, but not guarantee, of receiving another 18m euros seems on the low side.
So that’s the issue. We should make a nice accounting profit on him, which was always the plan, but bearing in mind his rave reviews, it should have been a larger one. That’s why it’s a deal that’s being derided by many.
I wanted him to stay over Zinchenko and did not see any problems with his performances when he was here though he did not play much but suspect the deal is not as bad as is made out. We will get a loan fee plus the fee for buying him and probably bonuses and sell on % and perhaps even first refusal or at least good relationship with RB and they are good at producing or at least buying and selling on young players
Don’t forget no one else wanted him we wanted to sell him or at least pep did and Corona virus is reducing fees and number of transfers
Maybe we needed him off the books and there was no one else in for him.
Not a lot City can do about that.
Why the fuck did we buy Angelino in the first place when there are leftbacks like Telles, Reguillon, Tagliafico. Unbelieveable. When will Pep stop making mistakes buying defenders? He gets like haft of his targets right. So sick of this bad business.
Get rid of Stones, Otamendi, Zinchenko and Angelino, keep Garcia, buy Koulibaly and get a proper fucking leftback in. How hard can it be?!
Utter bobbins
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Why the fuck did we buy Angelino in the first place when there are leftbacks like Telles, Reguillon, Tagliafico. Unbelieveable. When will Pep stop making mistakes buying defenders? He gets like haft of his targets right. So sick of this bad business.
Get rid of Stones, Otamendi, Zinchenko and Angelino, keep Garcia, buy Koulibaly and get a proper fucking leftback in. How hard can it be?!
amazing
amazing
Pep’s shambles when it comes to identify and buy good defenders, that’s amazing considering the money he spent.
Aké, Laporte, Cancelo and Walker spot on, the rest have been dogshit.
Mendy, Zinchenko, Angelino and Stones. That’s about 120-140m worth of defenders that are absolutely hopeless.
The 50% successrate is not far away.
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Loan. A fucking loan. If they want him then they should be paying for him. They had a 6 month ‘try before you buy period’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if he was back here in 12 months!
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According to Sky Sports Leipszig will only be able to buy him if he plays 12 matches for them with 7 in the second half of the season. Hmmmmm...
Kicker say they HAVE the option to buy but MUST buy if he is involved in a certain number of matches - obligation.
I think it was just a riskless trade and we seem to make some profit.
That's ok.
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Pep’s shambles when it comes to identify and buy good defenders, that’s amazing considering the money he spent.
Aké, Laporte, Cancelo and Walker spot on, the rest have been dogshit.
Mendy, Zinchenko, Angelino and Stones. That’s about 120-140m worth of defenders that are absolutely hopeless.
The 50% successrate is not far away.
Zinchenko didn’t cost anything and Angelino was peanuts.
Stones was a good buy in theory and no one was complaining about Mendy the day we signed him
Utter bobbins
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Pep’s shambles when it comes to identify and buy good defenders, that’s amazing considering the money he spent.
Aké, Laporte, Cancelo and Walker spot on, the rest have been dogshit.
Mendy, Zinchenko, Angelino and Stones. That’s about 120-140m worth of defenders that are absolutely hopeless.
The 50% successrate is not far away.
how hard can it be
how hard can it be
My man.
Akpowell
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Why the fuck did we buy Angelino in the first place when there are leftbacks like Telles, Reguillon, Tagliafico. Unbelieveable. When will Pep stop making mistakes buying defenders? He gets like haft of his targets right. So sick of this bad business.
Get rid of Stones, Otamendi, Zinchenko and Angelino, keep Garcia, buy Koulibaly and get a proper fucking leftback in. How hard can it be?!
You can only get rid of these players if clubs come in for them
You can only get rid of these players if clubs come in for them
Then have a garagesale. We’re aiming to be the very best in the world but we’re stuck with defenders not even Burnley would touch with gloves on.
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You can only get rid of these players if clubs come in for them
I don’t necessarily agree with that. We need to be proactive sellers. Make these players attractive to buyers.
You are not seriously suggesting that there isn’t a team in Europe that wouldn’t put their hand in their pocket for Angelino? He’s a regular for Liepzig, CL experience, a good age and has experience in 3 major leagues.
A loan is a disgrace
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Didn’t Zin cost about £400k and won us a title at left back?Pep’s shambles when it comes to identify and buy good defenders, that’s amazing considering the money he spent.
Aké, Laporte, Cancelo and Walker spot on, the rest have been dogshit.
Mendy, Zinchenko, Angelino and Stones. That’s about 120-140m worth of defenders that are absolutely hopeless.
The 50% successrate is not far away.
Didn’t Zin cost about £400k and won us a title at left back?
hardly thanks to him
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Lmaohardly thanks to him
Zinchenko came in as midfielder and was then converted into a defender and was fantastic there in the 18/19 season IMO, Angelino was only ever brought back as it was a free hit, if it didn't work out he could always be sold for profit.Pep’s shambles when it comes to identify and buy good defenders, that’s amazing considering the money he spent.
Aké, Laporte, Cancelo and Walker spot on, the rest have been dogshit.
Mendy, Zinchenko, Angelino and Stones. That’s about 120-140m worth of defenders that are absolutely hopeless.
The 50% successrate is not far away.
Mendy was one of the best young LBs in europe when we got him, unfortunately injuries have ended up with us only seeing glimpses of this.
Stones is a weird one, I want the guy to step up so badly, if he could of taken the first half of the 17/18 season and continued to perform that way, we'd have the best CB pairing in Europe imo. Unfortunately he didn't.
I don't personally see how these can be put down as a shambles in pep identifying defenders.