COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[bluethrunthru]

 

[bluethrunthru]

Ok thanks as always for the response. The movement of people in the GM area as a whole is the problem. I live 10 miles from Birmingham who are going to start having the same sort of problems but the problem is the amount of people commuting in and out of the City to work each day. It's a big issue

You mean those people who were urged to go back to the office? It was vital for the economy. Loads of folk milling about together like they were in late Feb /early March which has resulted in a 2nd wave? Who was that woman who said this was unforseeable?

 

[Out on blue 6]

You mean those people who were urged to go back to the office? It was vital for the economy. Loads of folk milling about together like they were in late Feb /early March which has resulted in a 2nd wave? Who was that woman who said this was unforseeable?

I can't quite work out whether your having a pop or not? My question was about Leicester and how long it's taken them to get back to normal. It went quiet on that front. It would be interesting to see if they've ever gone back

 

[bluethrunthru]

I can't quite work out whether your having a pop or not? My question was about Leicester and how long it's taken them to get back to normal. It went quiet on that front. It would be interesting to see if they've every gone back

No I am not having a pop at all mate I am just really musing on the mixed messaging and the suggestion that no-one could see it coming from Harding - it all revolves around proper track and trace - had they gone down the right route and chosen the commercially available app rather than being ideologically bound to try and develop their own and bung loads of cash into their mates then we would have had it like Germany, Ireland, Scotland and so on. Back that up with real enforcement so that bellend in Bolton can't come back from Spain, refuse to self isolate, have a party and go on a pubcrawl thats infected the town then we would be in with a chance.

So no fella not a pop at you at all

 

[Pam]

Well clearly it was difficult in 1918/19, given the mortality figures.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Well clearly it was difficult in 1918/19, given the mortality figures.

I suspect social issues - housing, lack of distancing - medical issues - no access to the medication and ventilators we have now - military issues - soldiers in crowded barracks and being repatriated on crowded ships played a huge part in that death toll - people wore masks but the odds were far more greatly stacked against them.

 

[Out on blue 6]

No I am not having a pop at all mate I am just really musing on the mixed messaging and the suggestion that no-one could see it coming from Harding - it all revolves around proper track and trace - had they gone down the right route and chosen the commercially available app rather than being ideologically bound to try and develop their own and bung loads of cash into their mates then we would have had it like Germany, Ireland, Scotland and so on. Back that up with real enforcement so that bellend in Bolton can't come back from Spain, refuse to self isolate, have a party and go on a pubcrawl thats infected the town then we would be in with a chance.

So no fella not a pop at you at all

Sorry mate. Mrs works front line NHS so it's a bit of a touchy subject for me. I've kept my powder dry but if one more poster comes on and gives it the big hoax conspiracy and more people die of flu I'm going to give them my missus number to explain that viewpoint to her. Sorry again

 

[ayrshire_blue]

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Well clearly it was difficult in 1918/19, given the mortality figures.

They didn’t know what a virus was then.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

The 16 England hospital deaths today were all aged between 69 and 97 and all of them had known underlying conditions.

It remains utterly sensible that we lock down older, vulnerable age groups and minimise interactions with those still out there willing to risk their health v their liferstyle.

And I have said on here before they need older icons like Bill Roache to do TV messages to explain this - not political broadcasts nobody really listens to.

Have no clue why they are so out of touch with the people they really need to persuade to stay safe.

Bill Roache: Older Icon
Brilliant

 

[richardtheref]

I have been all over the area in the last 2 days. Everywhere is packed and most seem to be taking the locallockdown as a joke. Very worrying

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I think it’s going to be hard to enforce these restrictions now. At the time of the first outbreak, nobody knew who was going to die from this. It was all unknown pretty much. Young people now know that they are extremely unlikely to die from this and that is enough for most to just get on with it.

I was reading some stats on the ONS site earlier and saw that deaths in people under 45 total 600 out of the total number with the vast majority being over 65 and the majority of those younger ones will have had underlying health issues.

I can see why younger people are now prepared take the risks they are taking. It’s not helpful to the older population but at 18 I’m not sure I would have been compliant.

I can’t see how lockdowns etc are going to stop this and it won’t be solved until we either find a cure or a vaccine.

 

[MCFC_ Phil]

I think it’s going to be hard to enforce these restrictions now. At the time of the first outbreak, nobody knew who was going to die from this. It was all unknown pretty much. Young people now know that they are extremely unlikely to die from this and that is enough for most to just get on with it.

I was reading some stats on the ONS site earlier and saw that deaths in people under 45 total 600 out of the total number with the vast majority being over 65 and the majority of those younger ones will have had underlying health issues.

I can see why younger people are now prepared take the risks they are taking. It’s not helpful to the older population but at 18 I’m not sure I would have been compliant.

I can’t see how lockdowns etc are going to stop this and it won’t be solved until we either find a cure or a vaccine.

This pretty much nails it. My thoughts too.

 

[cleavers]

I can’t see how lockdowns etc are going to stop this

At the start of this it was very effective for a good reason, non essential travel wasn't allowed, and we were only allowed out once per day for exercise, that's the only way really, however draconian it is, it works.

Nobody wants that obviously, but if it was threatened in high risk areas, with serious messaging and targets on cases/deaths in a region, it might drive the majority to comply again.

I said last week, the messaging on this is worse than weak, so much so that many aren't even hearing it, and even if they are, they are choosing to ignore it.

 

[tomomcfc]

I think it’s going to be hard to enforce these restrictions now. At the time of the first outbreak, nobody knew who was going to die from this. It was all unknown pretty much. Young people now know that they are extremely unlikely to die from this and that is enough for most to just get on with it.

I was reading some stats on the ONS site earlier and saw that deaths in people under 45 total 600 out of the total number with the vast majority being over 65 and the majority of those younger ones will have had underlying health issues.

I can see why younger people are now prepared take the risks they are taking. It’s not helpful to the older population but at 18 I’m not sure I would have been compliant.

I can’t see how lockdowns etc are going to stop this and it won’t be solved until we either find a cure or a vaccine.

Bang on this *Thumbs up*

 

[Silva_Spell]

Mice are almost impossible to infect with covid 19, and those that get it get it very mildly.

I think covid lab mice are given ace2 genes to make them susceptible

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

This track and trace is a farce just been wales most pubs just had a register on the door to sign in and a track and trace app that didnt work on most of the older phones.then at maccys they just asked for name and number absolute madness!
In most of the cafes people just walking in willy nilly no track or trace in sight.

 

[LoonyWorld]

Close pubs at 22.00hrs? They don't know what they are doing. How about a circuit breaking moonshot to kick things off? Or better still fuck off to Poland for a few days and beat quoro. Pile of shite. Long haul pandemic anyone?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Been working tonight. Every pub and bar was choca block inside and out with 18-30s. Didnt see many grown ups about really. Those were out may as well have been on top of eachother. A lot were students but in the fancier places it was just as daft. No social distancing or apparantly any fucks given. There was a Wetherspoons in the middle of it and this week 8 staff there have tested positive including one in hospital with it. What the fuck is up with people?

 

[BlueHammer85]

Been working tonight. Every pub and bar was choca block inside and out with 18-30s. Didnt see many grown ups about really. Those were out may as well have been on top of eachother. A lot were students but in the fancier places it was just as daft. No social distancing or apparantly any fucks given. There was a Wetherspoons in the middle of it and this week 8 staff there have tested positive including one in hospital with it. What the fuck is up with people?

younger people have been through lockdown long enough and now they simply don’t care - they want to go out and enjoy themselves. It’s the harsh reality.