COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Manc in London]

No. We still have 2,000 ICU beds spare with more opening up all the time and we've not had a small area overloaded.

That's the way I see it too. One of Italy's major issues was that a substantial number who needed ICU and a ventilator did not get access to one, and thus sadly passed. This happened quite early on too.

London, the hardest hit area, is at 75%. I don't believe that includes the Nightingale.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Am I being Clarkied here????

For the sake of clarity I am joking Inchy. #don't cuddle a tiger.

 

[lancs blue]

some new shit from the mathematicians https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20049908v1.full.pdf

Thanks, they seem to conclude that to avoid ICU capacity being overwhelmed a repeated cycle of intense lockdown followed by more relaxed restrictions would be needed well into 2021. I'm not sure how that would play in the behaviourial context - would people get fed up quite quickly with the continual switch between levels of restriction?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Am I being Clarkied here????

No. You cannot get Covid 19, so licking tigers isn’t bad for you unless the tiger takes umbrage and fancies his tea.

 

[jay_mcfc]

In the grand scheme, it’s probably quite helpful having a country do what Sweden are doing, as helps us see their success level.

The UK did it. The USA did it. Germany did it. It was only when the deaths and cases started to add up that they enacted restrictions. I see Sweden has had a bit of a jump in deaths today so it will be interesting to see if over the next few days their govt stick to their current plans when the pressure hits and the public start losing loved ones. I know there are Swedes here in Spain that are very concerned about friends and family back there.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Maybe some of our fellow Blues across the region can confirm?

My niece is a PE teacher in Dubai - at least she has a balcony.

She says they have drones up each night spraying disinfectant across everywhere - must be an amazing sight.

 

[blueparrot]

Any idea of the real death rate for the UK? As far as I can gather only deaths in hospitals are being counted. If that is true then it's a case of massaging the figures so it doesn't look quite so bad.

No because we have no idea how many people have or have had the virus and won’t for a long time yet.

 

[Chippy_boy]

That's the way I see it too. One of Italy's major issues was that a substantial number who needed ICU and a ventilator did not get access to one, and thus sadly passed. This happened quite early on too.

London, the hardest hit area, is at 75%. I don't believe that includes the Nightingale.

Don't know where you got that stat from? Not saying you are wrong, but I have not seen it. This report might seem to suggest a different picture:

https://www.theguardian.com/society...y-and-still-the-coronavirus-tide-keeps-coming

I am angry.

I am angry that NHS Nightingale will come too late. Intensive care units are becoming overloaded across the London region.

Our own is now ventilating almost three times the number it was designed for, spilling out across adjacent wards and operating theatres on scavenged ventilators and skeleton staffing.

Still the tide keeps coming.

This was Thursday last week (reported Friday).

 

[jay_mcfc]

Any idea of the real death rate for the UK? As far as I can gather only deaths in hospitals are being counted. If that is true then it's a case of massaging the figures so it doesn't look quite so bad.

No one really knows and it might just be a question of not having all the data rather than fudging numbers. It’s probably happening in most countries.

 

[Blue Maverick]

For the sake of clarity I am joking Inchy. #don't cuddle a tiger.

Unless you are the Tiger King