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Hospital data just as grim. Yet another big rise of 120 in to England hospitals to now total 1261. It was 782 last Monday. These increases are not trivial and are increasing.

Ventilator patients also up another 12 in one day to 154. It was 88 last Monday. Again this is no trivial rise.
 
Hospital data just as grim. Yet another big rise of 120 in to England hospitals to now total 1261. It was 782 last Monday. These increases are not trivial and are increasing.

Ventilator patients also up another 12 in one day to 154. It was 88 last Monday. Again this is no trivial rise.

that is grim
 
Alert level has gone up

What we know is Hancock said this morning that schools will stay open and businesses ,it is social that is spreading it ,i am guessing pubs will go back to takeaway and no mixing of households ,not another strict lockdown ,but just a guess
 
its the best way to Conttol the virus, by getting people to take it seriously again. that to me was clearly what they did there.

but they are statistically speaking correct. if nothing changes to slow the spread, the virus is doubling every 7/8 days. meaning in 4 weeks we will be at about 50k cases.

telling people that will hopefully make people take it a bit more seriously again.

the fact they said then extent 200+ deaths a day does show how much its controlled now though

Too many mixed messages for me.
 
Hospital data just as grim. Yet another big rise of 120 in to England hospitals to now total 1261. It was 782 last Monday. These increases are not trivial and are increasing.

Ventilator patients also up another 12 in one day to 154. It was 88 last Monday. Again this is no trivial rise.
I don't know why people want to wait to act
 
France are currently seeing an exponential rise and Spain are seeing a case reduction but a big increase in deaths. The scientists are being a bit rich with the rate increase but I think that's a shock tactic to force action because otherwise it's coming.

We have to ask why does it matter if exponential rises happen in October or November? Every large case increase is bad, it inevitably means more admissions and deaths down the line.

My dads mate has just been admitted to hospital with the virus and my mrs knows someone at her work who's currently just about through the worse of it. I knew of no-one who's had it until the last week or so.

We cannot just throw the dice and leave this to chance again because it's out there and it's a definite threat to many people and that's before we consider the long term effects which are very poorly understood.
 
Northern Ireland data 125 cases today at 1.3% of tests. 33 in hospital (big rise here too) and 3 in icu ventiulator beds (up 1) The weekly total of cases is a new record of 1014 of which 12.5% were over 60.
 
Out of interest Karen how do you explain the sudden drop in infections and deaths in Manaus Brasil with only 20% of the population having had the virus and no lockdown. Interested to know your opinion on this?


This is a bit ironic, an article on herd immunity supplemented by a picture of mass graves.

The article says 1 in 500 in the city died so translate that into the UK and we need to agree to 80,000 more deaths to achieve relative herd immunity..
 
Last time ventilator beds in England higher was 10 July. (it is going back daily).

Last time more patients in hospital in England 15 July.

1430 in UK hospital (approx) and 180 approx on ventilators as some other nation data not yet updated.

Seven days ago these UK numbers were 908 in hospital and 105 on ventilators

Two weeks ago these numbers were 638 in hospital (approx) and 77 on ventilators.
 
All settings deaths today updated to 11.

Adding another 2 from Northern Ireland.

This is actually the lowest since last Monday so may be a factor of weekend data.
 
This is a bit ironic, an article on herd immunity supplemented by a picture of mass graves.

The article says 1 in 500 in the city died so translate that into the UK and we need to agree to 80,000 more deaths to achieve relative herd immunity..
I supose it could be, it also might be lower if our healthcare system is better than in Manaus or if we shielded vulnerable groups sucessfully.

By the way im not agreeing or dissagreeing with herd immunity, I just think that this possible good news should be out there and discussed thats all.
 
My 13-year-old lad broke down crying today when he got home.

He's was told someone has tested positive in his side of the year eight bubble and he must self-isolate for 14 days at home.

Six months off school and he was so happy to be back, having missed so much of his first year at secondary school.

That's 96 kids on his side all being told they could not get the bus or tram home and needed to ring someone urgently to collect them. Kids in tears and panicking. He's at a grammar and some of these pupils come from miles around to go there (another debate)

It was inevitable and back to learning on Microsoft teams - he can cope with it but missing out on the social aspect and deeper understanding of his subject matter, certainly when it has come to sciences and experiments.

Poor kid is crestfallen and is just another casualty of those people who couldn't give a fuck and spread this disease around from the pubs to the parks.

No symptoms and hoping desperately he will be okay.
 
My 13-year-old lad broke down crying today when he got home.

He's was told someone has tested positive in his side of the year eight bubble and he must self-isolate for 14 days at home.

Six months off school and he was so happy to be back, having missed so much of his first year at secondary school.

That's 96 kids on his side all being told they could not get the bus or tram home and needed to ring someone urgently to collect them. Kids in tears and panicking. He's at a grammar and some of these pupils come from miles around to go there (another debate)

It was inevitable and back to learning on Microsoft teams - he can cope with it but missing out on the social aspect and deeper understanding of his subject matter, certainly when it has come to sciences and experiments.

Poor kid is crestfallen and is just another casualty of those people who couldn't give a fuck and spread this disease around from the pubs to the parks.

No symptoms and hoping desperately he will be okay.

Sorry to hear that Tolmie. Hope the wee fella is ok and gets back to school soon.
 
Sorry to hear that Tolmie. Hope the wee fella is ok and gets back to school soon.

Thanks pal, could fucking cry at the moment, really could.

Both my kids were so happy to be back at school, two weeks, and now this.

To add further insult to injury, he will be back one week and then half term week.

I just want my kids to have some hope and something to look forward to again.

So proud of them after one day out since March.
 
My 13-year-old lad broke down crying today when he got home.

He's was told someone has tested positive in his side of the year eight bubble and he must self-isolate for 14 days at home.

Six months off school and he was so happy to be back, having missed so much of his first year at secondary school.

That's 96 kids on his side all being told they could not get the bus or tram home and needed to ring someone urgently to collect them. Kids in tears and panicking. He's at a grammar and some of these pupils come from miles around to go there (another debate)

It was inevitable and back to learning on Microsoft teams - he can cope with it but missing out on the social aspect and deeper understanding of his subject matter, certainly when it has come to sciences and experiments.

Poor kid is crestfallen and is just another casualty of those people who couldn't give a fuck and spread this disease around from the pubs to the parks.

No symptoms and hoping desperately he will be okay.

I really do worry for this generation of kids, my 11 year old did the same (broke down) halfway through lockdown, saying he just desperately wanted face to face interaction with friends.

The hopelessness as a parent of not being able to do anything to help with it too :(
 
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