I always liked Zinny. But post Lyon and his dressing room gossip I have no time for him to be honest.I think it's unwarranted to attack a player for staying when he's done so before and massively helped the side.
We don't need him to go to buy a new LB, don't try and put the blame on him.
I think it's unwarranted to attack a player for staying when he's done so before and helped the side by holding down a starting position, even if he didn't need to be a specialist in that position to help.
We don't need him to go to buy a new LB, don't try and put the blame on him. If the club wanted to they could push him out.
I always liked Zinny. But post Lyon and his dressing room gossip I have no time for him to be honest.
We don't in terms of squad space. But Pep clearly thinks it would be bad for morale if he wasn't playing, even if we've told him to go. Which says a lot.
Lad's got a contract and he is entitled to stay and fight for his place.
Completely agree, Rodri is unfairly being held as the scapegoat in the teams inevitable loss of energy over the last 18mth. Hopefully the few tweaks made this season will highlight the control he has in games. Very much a leader alsoI don't buy into the theory that Rodri is shit, as far as I'm concerned there's only about 5 teams (1 is Wolves) in the league where he might be a problem and we have loads of other options there.
What Rodri said is what Pep thinks, and said himself in more diplomatic language.
What exactly did he do after the Lyon game?I always liked Zinny. But post Lyon and his dressing room gossip I have no time for him to be honest.
We don't in terms of squad space. But Pep clearly thinks it would be bad for morale if he wasn't playing, even if we've told him to go. Which says a lot.
He stepped out of line when he said anything about what did or didn't happen in the changing room. That's just my opinion. Not referring to the comments on tactics etc. which i fully accept were translated out of context.If anyone is still going on about Zinchenko's comments after Lyon than IMO they can just do one, im not interested in talking with them, because it was made known months ago that the lad said absolutely nothing out of line, and if you think otherwise it's because you've got an agenda or are wilfully ignorant and decided to believe bullshit to get angry over something.
He stepped out of line when he said anything about what did or didn't happen in the changing room. That's just my opinion. Not referring to the comments on tactics etc. which i fully accept were translated out of context.
That was years ago. With how the team is now, if we put Zinchenko in we will get murdered.Wasn't there a run of games where he played at LB and we went unbeaten for 20 odd games that he was in the side, and the only dropped points were when he wasn't?
Short memories on here.
He's every right to stay here and not be forced out of the club so it's fans have a shiny new thing to watch instead.
Walker makes more cock-ups than TAA. People talk like Walkers defensive qualities are up there with VVD. Myth. I worry about the mental well-being of anyone on here who would take Walker over TAA.
At the moment only Laporte, KDB and Aguero definitely get in the Liverpool side. There are a few (Bernardo, Foden, Ederson) at their best would potentially get in there.
You’ve said that like it’s a bad thing. Surely what you describe is exactly what a coach should be doing and is what, at this moment in time, puts him slightly ahead of Pep, in my opinion. Not that I’d want him instead but I do wish Pep would, on occasion, just be a bit more practical.Liverpool's players look good because Klopp have a system that allows them to play to their strengths thus masking weaknesses. They would not look as good in other setups.
His missus said that Pep had bottled in against Lyon. Apparently, if a players wife states the bleedin’ obvious we should move him on.Excuse my ignorance but what was the post-Lyon comment? I’ve seen mention on here a couple of times but don‘t know what was said.
Then it came across in the wrong way. I think its a very smart thing to do. I don't think there is a very big difference between Pep and Klopp though. They both have a system and try to buy players to implement it. Pep's system is more complicated and difficult to implement in my opinion. That's why Klopp can integrate players of less individual quality, and they will look good. When the Liverpool players are worn out - and they will eventually be - Klopp does not have a magic plan B. Look how it ended for him in Dortmund. After 5 years or so he couldn't implement his insane work rate anymore. The players didn't respond to his motivation attempts like in the years before, and in the end Klopp basically gave up and left before they had to fire him. I think the same will happen for Liverpool. But in my humble opinion Klopp has done extremely well in finding players for his system, and therefore they look great. Put them somewhere else and they will probably look a lot more average. Klopp is still a cnut off course!You’ve said that like it’s a bad thing. Surely what you describe is exactly what a coach should be doing and is what, at this moment in time, puts him slightly ahead of Pep, in my opinion. Not that I’d want him instead but I do wish Pep would, on occasion, just be a bit more practical.
Absolute bs to compare them.Were you glad when Wayne Bridge refused to leave for the good of the club? How about Danny Mills?
Spare me the semtiment for a minute. Zinny is beyond lucky that Pep gave him a chance. He'll have a good career elsewhere. He ought to repay the loyalty Pep showed him by moving on now.
He has no future at the club and if he thinks he has a better chance under the next manager, he's outright delusional. He already shat on the club when he and his missus talked about the dressing room after Lyon in public.
It does make you wonder if there’s some FFP shenanigans going on. Thiago in and Brewster out, net spend (I know, I know) of PLUS £3.5M.Swansea though? I get the potential,but 23m.......? c'mon.
Some might liken the Dortmund example to our/Pep’s current situation. Or at least fear that we peaked the season before last.Then it came across in the wrong way. I think its a very smart thing to do. I don't think there is a very big difference between Pep and Klopp though. They both have a system and try to buy players to implement it. Pep's system is more complicated and difficult to implement in my opinion. That's why Klopp can integrate players of less individual quality, and they will look good. When the Liverpool players are worn out - and they will eventually be - Klopp does not have a magic plan B. Look how it ended for him in Dortmund. After 5 years or so he couldn't implement his insane work rate anymore. The players didn't respond to his motivation attempts like in the years before, and in the end Klopp basically gave up and left before they had to fire him. I think the same will happen for Liverpool. But in my humble opinion Klopp has done extremely well in finding players for his system, and therefore they look great. Put them somewhere else and they will probably look a lot more average. Klopp is still a cnut off course!
Exactly. He also comes across as one of the most coachable players we have and does to the letter what’s asked of him.Here’s my take on Zin:
I quite like him as a bloke and a player. I’ve seen more than one performance at LB where I would have given him MOTM but at LB long term he isn’t the answer as first or second pick.
Where Zin is worth keeping is that people forget how young he is and that he will still improve. Most importantly he is possibly one of our best utility players and can cover a lot of positions in an emergency. Every squad needs a Swiss Army knife.
The main argument to him leaving seems to be that we need the NHG space to sign a left back.
1. I’m not sure that’s true
2. If it is true then sell Garcia
Zin is not preventing us from signing a left back which, I agree, we seem to need. The two topics are not related.
Sign a left back and keep our Swiss Army Knife.