Leeds United (A) Post Match Thread

[FantasyIreland]

The gaffs from Ederson are getting more frequent & worrying..

Would be far more worrying if Bravo was number 2.

 

[herrock]

Pep , it is fair to say, knows more about football than any of us on here. But when your left back has had a stinker of a first half, been booked and then got ran ragged by a youngster, put on solely to run at him because he had a stinker of a first half, why did he not put Ake on earlier?

 

[CC1]

The champions league, what when we lost to Lyon with our best players on the bench, were they tired to?

Yep that’s the campaign I’m referring to. What about the fact we had no pre season games?

 

[flook]

LOL if we had 11 players with his attitude, and fitness we would be in a lot better place at the moment.

thats the first sensible thing you've said in months

 

[oldhamblue]

Confidence and lack of faith in the manager.

I'm drawing this conclusion. Pep's intensity can only last so long before the players have had enough. I seriously think the players lost faith in Pep after his Lyon team selection

 

[Keeper!]

United just about to sign Cavani - he would have been a decent buy while we find a longer term replacement for Sergio.

LOL 300k week, Sanchez MKII, agent Ed thank you

 

[Neville Kneville]

Yes, he runs a lot mostly because he is always out of position by a fews meters and misses crucial interception and keeps running around back to compencate.

He made a couple of poor mistakes, but without him covering so much ground, we would have lost.

 

[Worzel Gummidge#9]

United just about to sign Cavani - he would have been a decent buy while we find a longer term replacement for Sergio.

Will be guttered if he signs for them

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

The body language of the team, lack of courage and energy that is making it clear something is really amiss.

We were strongest team in the last fifteen minutes and i thought we fought until the end to win the game and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the courage of the majority of those players , they did look tired near the end but Leeds were dead on their feet as well it was non stop and end to end on a heavy pitch.
Dispointing result but not at all disappointed in our teams effort.

 

[Pell]

Bielsa said yesterday that Pep Guardiola ruined football, because he's so good and he had so much success that teams resorted to horrendous football in order to counter people adopting Pep's tacitcs.

I'm not sure if that's 100% true or just Bielsa going over the top in complimenting his friend, but I'm really starting to think Pep has ruined the Manchester City fan base.

I know that the Match thread and twitter are not necessarily 100% accurate portrayals of the fanbase but I seriously don't think many people on here actually enjoy football anymore. The levels of anger and angst that starts when the team sheet is announced and doesn't disappear unless we are 4-0 up is just unbearable.

Both our strikers are injured! Someone's going to have to play out of position. I've not been Mahrez's biggest fan over the 3 years he's been here but fucking hell guys he's not shit, he doesn't need to "Go back to North Africa" FFS because he didn't hold the ball up. He put a massive shift in, was the first one legging it back to defend just before he came off. The players pressed like lunatics in the first 30 minutes and maybe we're not fit enough to do that for the whole game yet because we had no preseason, but it showed the players are committed to Pep's football 100%.

We had it exceptionally easy for a couple of seasons, 198 points has never been done before, and won't be done again, but even in that centurions season we dropped points in 1/6 games. We had long spells where we weren't winning games. I don't remember there being so much animosity towards the players and Pep, I don't remember this sense of entitlement to an easy win and anything else is a travesty requiring players lined up against the wall or Pep getting replaced.

Leeds were really good. We saw that when the (apparently on a compeltely different plane to us) Liverpool side conceded 3 and could have conceded many more. BIelsa is an exceptional coach, Leeds will finish in the top 10 and take a few more scalps. They will take away all structure from the game and make it end to end madness against a lot of teams.

Unfortunately, in an absolute downpour, Ederson, who was excellent mostly, made 3 or 4 great saves and was the 2nd best keeper in the league at claiming crosses and corners last season made a mistake. They scored, we dropped a couple of points, it happens. Sterling should have ended the game, that's annoying but he is what he is, he helps us out a lot more than he hurts us.

Pep isn't upset post match, he's laughing and smiling. He wants the title more than anyone posting on here, he works harder for Manchester City than anyone, and he knows with 6 players out, against a really good side, no preseason, in an insane condensed season, sometimes you're going to drop a couple of points.

I'm not sure how to make this a more succinct point, but I just think quite a lot of our fans just need to fucking relax and stop living with this mindset where we have to win every single game we play while looking world class from 1-11 and having put the game to bed inside half an hour.

I'm sure the usual brigade will turn up and tell me to fuck off for being a happy clapper, but christ, in 2020, with a pandemic keeping us cooped up, if you're frothing at the mouth with anger from the line up being released on twitter to the full time whistle then I'm not sure what the point is.

I agree with a lot of what you say. All things considered this wasn't a bad result. We've had no preseason, no strikers at the moment, other players missing, giving us little choice to play Mendy, and have lost a player who many think is the clubs greatest. Add to that a hectic schedule. I know it's a cliche, but we are going through a transition, Kompany has gone, Silva has gone, and this looks like Aguero's last season. Liverpool are in their peak at the moment, they're where we were a few seasons back. Getting the title off them is going to be very difficult, but if we can close the gap points wise, and show evidence we're heading in the right direction, and that the next season is going to be one where we're in strong contention, then we've done well. We've been spoilt, players like Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Yaya, etc, have served the club fantastically, but now they're all gone bar Aguero, and now its time for the new generation to come of age, the likes of Foden, Dias, Torres, with Sterling and De Bruyne as the experienced heads.