COVID-19 — Coronavirus

Status
Not open for further replies.
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Of course there is. If we impose restrictions that drive down infections then there is less chance for the vulnerable to catch if they do go out. There is general consensus in the scientific community that a vaccine is just 3 to 6 months off. Some people are so selfish they don't want to be stopped going gyms, pubs, cinema etc because there tired of it. Boo fucking hoo. 7 and a half mths ive been in stuck in my flat all because i had an allergic reaction to a prescribed tablet 20 mths ago. Giving up some liberties is not an easy thing to do, i truly understand that but it is the right thing to do in the short term. If the vaccines fail and it gets to April then even i would agree that we may need to look at other scenarios. Whining about some restrictions they may benefit millions because you're a bit down or sick of it is selfish in the extreme. Some cunts on here would lock people like me away indefinitely just so they can have a kebab after they come out the pub later than they now can.
Click to expand...
mosssideblue said:
Your point is valid, but many of the fit and healthy are responsible for prolonging the agony by being irresponsible.
Everyone adhering to the rules would help significantly in the UK getting on top of things.
Click to expand...
I get that. Totally. But it isnt going away anytime soon.

pubs open are no problem if they are safe. My gym has staff walking round with big sprayers on a constant loop.

where as i sympathise with the fella above being stuck in for 7 months it doesnt help us ALL being stuck in. Detrimental if Anything.

be safe, wash hands, wear masks when required...

... keep fining thems that dont and heavy fines/closures for establishments that dont enforce
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Of course there is. If we impose restrictions that drive down infections then there is less chance for the vulnerable to catch if they do go out. There is general consensus in the scientific community that a vaccine is just 3 to 6 months off. Some people are so selfish they don't want to be stopped going gyms, pubs, cinema etc because there tired of it. Boo fucking hoo. 7 and a half mths ive been in stuck in my flat all because i had an allergic reaction to a prescribed tablet 20 mths ago. Giving up some liberties is not an easy thing to do, i truly understand that but it is the right thing to do in the short term. If the vaccines fail and it gets to April then even i would agree that we may need to look at other scenarios. Whining about some restrictions they may benefit millions because you're a bit down or sick of it is selfish in the extreme. Some cunts on here would lock people like me away indefinitely just so they can have a kebab after they come out the pub later than they now can.
Click to expand...

Why would they want you locked away? Are you planning on visiting the pub or kebab shop by the way.
 
mosssideblue said:
Your point is valid, but many of the fit and healthy are responsible for prolonging the agony by being irresponsible.
Everyone adhering to the rules would help significantly in the UK getting on top of things.
Click to expand...

So the fit and healthy are next in line for the Bluemoon blame bingo. Going to work or place of study is not being irresponsible it's going about your daily life. People of all ages, levels of health etc are acting in the same way this culture of blame needs to stop.
 
Northernstorirs said:
Have you ever actually considered some of us were looking at this from the perspective of those who work there and are facing redundancies, loss of income etc?

tosser
Click to expand...

The pub landlord who had to close then was told they can open if they spend time and money making the place safe matters not. He doesn't care about them shitting on them and their staff.

He does then go on to complain about people being selfish though.
 
artfuldodger said:
Very good post and sums up how I feel. We’ve had local restrictions since the end of July which haven’t worked. I believe anything they bring in now will be with us for months.
Click to expand...
Gen question bud, why don't you think they have worked, for example, were they the wrong measures or maybe the right measures not adhered to by all?
 
jitsubluedan said:
If the proposed new measures are to ensure the NHS can cope over the winter when cases of both flu and Covid are expected to rise, why don’t they use the Nightingale hospitals for those patients - or at least just the Covid patients?

IMHO that would have a twofold benefit in that it would ensure local hospitals could function as normal i.e. would not be overstretched (beyond the point that they usually are) and it would also isolate Covid cases from other vulnerable patients.

Or is that too simplistic?
Click to expand...
This has been discussed on here recently, and staffing both hospitals was seen to be problematic
 
Marvin said:
I'd concentrate on focused activities which we could do do to protect older people and those who are diabetics, or middle-aged and overweight.

1) Get fit lose weight. A bit surprising that this wasn't done over the Summer but of course public campaigns mean nothing without individual commitment.
2) vaccinate key groups. The UAE, Russia and China are vaccinating key workers. If the authorities have reservations about the UK vaccines, then contact the Chinese. A relatively small but targeted vaccination could make a lot of difference to the elderly who frequently need to go to hospitals for checks up treatments etc but don't feel safe to do so at present.
Click to expand...
When did a safe, UK vaccine become available?
 
mosssideblue said:
Gen question bud, why don't you think they have worked, for example, were they the wrong measures or maybe the right measures not adhered to by all?
Click to expand...
If I knew the answer to that, I could sort it all overnight! I don’t think you can put blanket restriction over such a large area and expect them to work. The needs of Oldham aren’t the same as Didsbury. Local authorities should have been far more involved. But essentially I don’t think you can expect people to avoid contact with their friends and family over months and months. They just won’t do it. And they won’t do it under any new restrictions either.
 
mosssideblue said:
Saying people will be delighted is pathetic
Click to expand...

Closing businesses which have little impact on infections is pathetic. Unnecessary loss of earnings to many without reducing the risk is pathetic. Strange that tory constituencies in the south with similar rates are not having restrictions being imposed..
 
marcus said:
I get that. Totally. But it isnt going away anytime soon.

pubs open are no problem if they are safe. My gym has staff walking round with big sprayers on a constant loop.

where as i sympathise with the fella above being stuck in for 7 months it doesnt help us ALL being stuck in. Detrimental if Anything.

be safe, wash hands, wear masks when required...

... keep fining thems that dont and heavy fines/closures for establishments that dont enforce
Click to expand...
I sympathise because in the main, these establishments are doing their best to provide a safe environment, but they are being penalised by those attending not being able to act responsibly, particularly closing times at pubs
 
mosssideblue said:
This has been discussed on here recently, and staffing both hospitals was seen to be problematic
Click to expand...

Haven’t kept up to date on thread topic so wasn’t aware.

It did cross my mind about staffing but then if that’s the case, why did they build the Nightingale hospitals in the first place, unless it was a publicity stunt - albeit a rather expensive one?
 
True_Blue69 said:
So the fit and healthy are next in line for the Bluemoon blame bingo. Going to work or place of study is not being irresponsible it's going about your daily life. People of all ages, levels of health etc are acting in the same way this culture of blame needs to stop.
Click to expand...
Open your eyes, not everyone is acting like a role model citizen
 
artfuldodger said:
If I knew the answer to that, I could sort it all overnight! I don’t think you can put blanket restriction over such a large area and expect them to work. The needs of Oldham aren’t the same as Didsbury. Local authorities should have been far more involved. But essentially I don’t think you can expect people to avoid contact with their friends and family over months and months. They just won’t do it. And they won’t do it under any new restrictions either.
Click to expand...
Then, until we have a safe vaccine, the pain continues
 
jitsubluedan said:
Haven’t kept up to date on thread topic so wasn’t aware.

It did cross my mind about staffing but then if that’s the case, why did they build the Nightingale hospitals in the first place, unless it was a publicity stunt - albeit a rather expensive one?
Click to expand...
Staffing was intended (in March) to be a combination of current NHS staff that csn be released by closing non essential clinics, final year students, retired staff recalled and army medics.
www.england.nhs.uk

NHS England » New NHS nightingale hospital to fight coronavirus

NHS England » New NHS nightingale hospital to fight coronavirus
www.england.nhs.uk www.england.nhs.uk
 
Northernstorirs said:
Closing businesses which have little impact on infections is pathetic. Unnecessary loss of earnings to many without reducing the risk is pathetic. Strange that tory constituencies in the south with similar rates are not having restrictions being imposed..
Click to expand...
That's not what I responded to though as you know. To say those wanting another lockdown will be delighted with the suffering is beyond pathetic
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top