Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

Cellarite said:
Really intrigued to know what you mean by this.
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Literally nothing more than what i read into publicly available comments.

Prior to the end of the season, pep was consistently highlighting he was happy, wanted to be here, at the very least till the end of his contract, and even mentioned possibly beyond, to be looked at when the time is right.

After the season ended, mentions started of 'i have to deserve it', and other similar caveats, assess how the season goes etc.

At the same time as Khaldoon was guarded over it, with his it is a natural conversation that will come. In addition to the 'pep and i have hating losing in common'.

Not reading any more into that other than both are comfortable to take their time, and neither seems committed to pursuing anything.

Which to me is different to how things were presented up until the end of the cas case.

Thats all. Also entirely my own interpretation and opinion.
 
Coatigan said:
Literally nothing more than what i read into publicly available comments.

Prior to the end of the season, pep was consistently highlighting he was happy, wanted to be here, at the very least till the end of his contract, and even mentioned possibly beyond, to be looked at when the time is right.

After the season ended, mentions started of 'i have to deserve it', and other similar caveats, assess how the season goes etc.

At the same time as Khaldoon was guarded over it, with his it is a natural conversation that will come. In addition to the 'pep and i have hating losing in common'.

Not reading any more into that other than both are comfortable to take their time, and neither seems committed to pursuing anything.

Which to me is different to how things were presented up until the end of the cas case.

Thats all. Also entirely my own interpretation and opinion.
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I also think if you add to that the Messi situation, he may well be planning on longer. Its no grey area that we were in for Messi and it wasn't on a one year contract, 2/3 years minimum and some suggested 4/5 years. Now if we were in for Messi and Messi by all accounts wanted to come here, that surely was under the umbrella of Pep being manager for a large period of that time. Now maybe becuase we didnt get Messi Pep has had a re think, but what it does confirm to me is that Pep was ready to commit long term to the club.
 
Coatigan said:
Literally nothing more than what i read into publicly available comments.

Prior to the end of the season, pep was consistently highlighting he was happy, wanted to be here, at the very least till the end of his contract, and even mentioned possibly beyond, to be looked at when the time is right.

After the season ended, mentions started of 'i have to deserve it', and other similar caveats, assess how the season goes etc.

At the same time as Khaldoon was guarded over it, with his it is a natural conversation that will come. In addition to the 'pep and i have hating losing in common'.

Not reading any more into that other than both are comfortable to take their time, and neither seems committed to pursuing anything.

Which to me is different to how things were presented up until the end of the cas case.

Thats all. Also entirely my own interpretation and opinion.
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I agree with this. Pep's body language in the first press conference was very negative. I don't think this is anything sinister though. He has endured a very tough 12 months with Covid (losing his mum), the UEFA court case, huge injury problems, the relentless stress of too many games (even us fans are tired out) plus the hangover from the Lyon defeat which was devastating for the players as well.
Pep is not superhuman. In my view he is just exhausted. All the players and officials at City are suffering the personal impact of the pandemic and it is affecting their form. It is also affecting other clubs. In a perfect world we would just give Pep six months off and then take him back.
It is possible that Messi coming could inspire him to one more year but personally I think it is quite likely he will finish his contract and them take some time off with his young family. Who can blame him?
 
willipp said:
I also think if you add to that the Messi situation, he may well be planning on longer. Its no grey area that we were in for Messi and it wasn't on a one year contract, 2/3 years minimum and some suggested 4/5 years. Now if we were in for Messi and Messi by all accounts wanted to come here, that surely was under the umbrella of Pep being manager for a large period of that time. Now maybe becuase we didnt get Messi Pep has had a re think, but what it does confirm to me is that Pep was ready to commit long term to the club.
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I personally don't in the slightest believe they are related. Ditto re aguero. If messi comes, bonus for both of them. But i would doubt either is waiting to see before making their decision. Or that the club is looking to use that to offer them any more than they would anyway.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I agree with this. Pep's body language in the first press conference was very negative. I don't think this is anything sinister though. He has endured a very tough 12 months with Covid (losing his mum), the UEFA court case, huge injury problems, the relentless stress of too many games (even us fans are tired out) plus the hangover from the Lyon defeat which was devastating for the players as well.
Pep is not superhuman. In my view he is just exhausted. All the players and officials at City are suffering the personal impact of the pandemic and it is affecting their form. It is also affecting other clubs. In a perfect world we would just give Pep six months off and then take him back.
It is possible that Messi coming could inspire him to one more year but personally I think it is quite likely he will finish his contract and them take some time off with his young family. Who can blame him?
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I still think he will extend. Just doesn't feel as positive about it as it seemes before, but then the whole world has lost positivity.

But what you suggest is entirely likely as well.

Re pep's demeanour, to me that is more to losing particular games, and the manner, than to being here in general.
 
Coatigan said:
I still think he will extend. Just doesn't feel as positive about it as it seemes before, but then the whole world has lost positivity.

But what you suggest is entirely likely as well.

Re pep's demeanour, to me that is more to losing particular games, and the manner, than to being here in general.
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I hope you are right and I am wrong. Pep's the best manager our club will ever have. A bigger question is what will happen to the club's leadership structure (Khaldoon, Txxi, and Soriano) if Pep leaves. I would like it to stay in place whoever is manager (Nagelsman would be my choice)
 
Brilliant stuff. Nice to see Pep so relaxed chatting away to another sporting great.
Pep also seems to be looking forward to his trip to India to watch cricket with Virat.
I wonder if he will stay for the whole 5 days of a Test Match or just have a quick Twenty 20.
And Pep can get Kohli along to a Lancashire game sometime as well as a trip to The Etihad too.
 
Dunno.

Have not read the 351 pages yet but, should Guardiola leave when his contract finishes, then a replacement would've been announced already. Gone are the days when suddenly Mancini entering stage left nor Pellegrini after him. Since Pep came, it was announced way ahead of the following season.

He's staying, meself suspects.
 
Chris Holmes said:
Brilliant stuff. Nice to see Pep so relaxed chatting away to another sporting great.
Pep also seems to be looking forward to his trip to India to watch cricket with Virat.
I wonder if he will stay for the whole 5 days of a Test Match or just have a quick Twenty 20.
And Pep can get Kohli along to a Lancashire game sometime as well as a trip to The Etihad too.
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Probably get fatigued after 4 days and take a sabbatical ;)
 
It’s so obvious to me. If Messi comes he extends if not he doesn’t. I also think he’s earned the right to do what he thinks is best for him and his family
 
Coatigan said:
I still think he will extend. Just doesn't feel as positive about it as it seemes before, but then the whole world has lost positivity.

But what you suggest is entirely likely as well.

Re pep's demeanour, to me that is more to losing particular games, and the manner, than to being here in general.
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Messi is the key for pep . If we go in for him then pep will commit as messi will not turn up without pep and vice a versa . For pep to stay though he needs to adapt though as he is not cutting it at the moment and doesn’t deserve another contract .
 
Paul1970 said:
Messi is the key for pep . If we go in for him then pep will commit as messi will not turn up without pep and vice a versa . For pep to stay though he needs to adapt though as he is not cutting it at the moment and doesn’t deserve another contract .
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How long do we keep chasing that particular shadow though? He's pushing 34 with a lot of miles on the clock and with every passing year those wages get harder to justify.
For the record I regard him as the best player to have ever kicked a football, but surely there's a tipping point where it becomes an unwise endeavour.
 
Paul1970 said:
Messi is the key for pep . If we go in for him then pep will commit as messi will not turn up without pep and vice a versa . For pep to stay though he needs to adapt though as he is not cutting it at the moment and doesn’t deserve another contract .
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Disagree on both.

Pep has every reason to stay here, without even a mention of messi. And he has every reason to leave once his contract expires if that is right for him.

Based on what has he not deserve a new contract?
 
Coatigan said:
Disagree on both.

Pep has every reason to stay here, without even a mention of messi. And he has every reason to leave once his contract expires if that is right for him.

Based on what has he not deserve a new contract?
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We cannot afford a season like last season mate . Say what you want about pep but 9 league games lost including 2 derby games And an absolute disgrace against Lyon is not good enough no matter who the manager is and what he has done in the past . If we carry on playing with he same tactics like we do at the moment then we will not win the league it’s as simple as this is now the hardest season pep has ever had and it will go be way or another. Pep doesn’t have to prove anything and if he was to walk away from then it will have been the best 5 years football we will ever see but we will move one and I’m sure more titles will follow .
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I hope you are right and I am wrong. Pep's the best manager our club will ever have. A bigger question is what will happen to the club's leadership structure (Khaldoon, Txxi, and Soriano) if Pep leaves. I would like it to stay in place whoever is manager (Nagelsman would be my choice)
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Nagelsman would be my choice but I can us getting graham potter tbh .
 
Why hasn’t Poch taken a job yet? That’s what I wonder about. Perhaps he’s been offered some top jobs quietly and quietly turned them down. You would think he must have been by now.
 
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