COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Deleted member 77198]

Because plenty of people are constantly touching them, wearing them under their chin or just covering their mouth and not nose

That’s very true

 

[johnnytapia]

Because we have taken measures to stop it, clearly but it still killing people in increasing numbers

The number of deaths can only increase. The rate of fatality is decreasing globally.
Anyway, semantics aside, I concur 100% with you on the need to read deeply. To pick up books. To educate oneself. Now more than ever.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

There used to be a thirst for knowledge, Karen. If you wanted to learn about something, you would go to the library and read books that had been written by eminent professors on the subject. Now people sit on social media and absorb shit posted by a crackpot in his bedroom. No questioning what they're reading just take it as gospel. It's fucking scary. People believe absolute shite about young earths, flat earths and mass control experiments, all in the face of overwhelming evidence. The human race is fucked, because, it would appeal, cunts breed faster than non cunts. We truly are heading towards an idiocracy.

It only exposes people to the same sort of thing. So one crackpot in his bedroom talking shite gets clicked on and the algorithms keep bringing up many of these morons to peoples’ feeds.

That’s why we have people going round with all these conspiracies, proponents of fake news, massive victim mentalities and those that are permanently offended. The real world and people in the real world is not what social media makes it out to be.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths Total & NW 3 wks ago v 2 wks ago v last wk v today

50 / 27 NW versus 87 / 43 NW versus 134 / 57 NW versus 207 / 77 NW today.

Rises of 74% then 54% then 54% So not great news but the increase is not accelerating at least.

You would expect England to be behind everywhere on the deaths as these are the last thing that we will see change and England was slow to react to rising cases compared with the other three nations. And even now is arguably doing less about it than they are.

 

[kaz7]

Sounds like a radio phone-in: Can I get a mention for Covid?
How the fuck do you get a "mention" on a death certificate? At what point does a mention become the root cause?
Anne Boleyn. Death by beheading (and a slight tickly cough).
Donald Campbell: blitzed into a million pieces on Lake Coniston (and a nice shout out to the cancerous lung he had from 100 Bensons a day)

Because there is cause of death and secondary causes on a death certificate , as has been said a million times

 

[kaz7]

The number of deaths can only increase. The rate of fatality is decreasing globally.
Anyway, semantics aside, I concur 100% with you on the need to read deeply. To pick up books. To educate oneself. Now more than ever.

I also mean the damage it does to the body , how it doesnt stop at the lungs , it wants every organ

 

[johnnytapia]

Because there is cause of death and secondary causes on a death certificate , as has been said a million times

You've said something a million times? Really? (if you'd read my post properly you'd have seen it was very much tongue-firmly-in-cheek).

 

[sniff]

It only exposes people to the same sort of thing. So one crackpot in his bedroom talking shite gets clicked on and the algorithms keep bringing up many of these morons to peoples’ feeds.

That’s why we have people going round with all these conspiracies, proponents of fake news, massive victim mentalities and those that are permanently offended. The real world and people in the real world is not what social media makes it out to be.

There is a great, if not sometimes hard to understand, documentary of netflix that covers this.

It starts off by telling you, no two people see the same world through the internet or any form of social media. Even the results you search in google are different depending on where in the world you live, or your search history from all data they have taken via the numerous apps you use daily.

It really is shocking, idiots who think the earth is flat. They will have that confirmed in the searches they make and the comments they see. Facebook only shows post and news from people you interact with, so a lot of the time no other information is there to challenge a belief. Its worrying mainly due to people who will take what they read as the truth, even though its only Bob the local loon spouting made up shite. The current generation is a real concern. Because instead of the global network connecting people,. Its actually creating small communities of people who all read, listen and believe the same things. Its making a very small minded world

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths in detail:

26 Oct adds 29 = 29 after 1 day. Highest first day total since 28 May.

25 Oct adds 88 = 105 after 2 days. Highest second day add on since 14 May. Second 3 day total over 100 in past 4 days.

24 Oct adds 38 = 94 after 3 days.

23 Oct adds 29 = 111 after 4 days. Fourth successive total at 4 days over 100.

22 Oct adds 10 = 137 at 5 days. Highest 5 day total since 20 May.

Lots of add ons so will just give the days with add ons and total now for that day

21 Oct = 133, 20 Oct = 125, 19 Oct = 106, 15 Oct = 87, 12 Oct = 70, 8 Oct = 56, 7 Oct = 58, 6 Oct = 49, 4 Oct = 38, 24 Sep = 24 All just added one apart from 20 Oct that added 4.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Of infections in Scotland today

194 are aged 65+
40 of whom are 85+

94 are aged under 15
28 of whom are aged under 5

184 are aged 15-24

855 aged 25-64


* Of 25 Deaths *

12 are aged 85+
8 are aged 75-84
3 are aged 65-74
2 are aged 45-64

 

[johnnytapia]

It will be interesting to see how the numbers pan out after half-term and whether we can detect any discernible increase/decrease due to the schools closing. My own union, the NEU are now beginning to call for rotas to be introduced; children on a rolling programme of 1 or 2 weeks in/off. How realistic that would be I'm not sure as it would mean thousands of people having work disrupted, however, that's already the case as classes/year groups are sent home when there's a positive case. My gut instinct is that we'll muddle through until Christmas when, maybe, just maybe, we'll have more definitive (and positive) news on a vaccine.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland sadly is continuing the trend onto very bad numbers.

15 deaths. Most here in many many months.

But at 722 cases these are tracking down again - seems like the circuit breaker might be working

Starting to think we will pay a painful price for not doing this a month ago.

The 7 day case total down again for the 4th straight day to 6493.

A fall in the over 60s and over 80s in that number too. But not a big one. Though it reduced the over 60 number as a % slightly day to day.

Hospital patients 360 - up 18 on yesterday and ventilated 33 - up 3 on yesterday.

 

[M18CTID]

A link to the full speech here. He nails it on so many fronts:

 

[Healdplace]

Probably just because the number of daily tests is now multiple times what it was for most of those previous months.

Its a factor hard to see when you just spot cases escalating in Greater Manchester but is of course equally relevant. We missed many cases in the first wave. So what become huge leaps in the numbers there - then to now - really are not what they seem.

They tell us how places are doing versus each other now but much less about how they are doing versus themselves in the first wave. Unless the change is so stark (like Wigan now or Bolton when it went off a cliff some weeks ago) that you cannot miss the change in status.

This is why I am using Pop Score data more than I used to do. It tracks relative change better than raw cases can.

As you saw last night it shows Manchester is the best place in GM right now. Something you would never guess in a million years if you just go from the 300 or 400 cases a day that outs it top the 'leader board' all the time. The pop sore evens that out via population.

 

[Len Rum]

Sounds like a radio phone-in: Can I get a mention for Covid?
How the fuck do you get a "mention" on a death certificate? At what point does a mention become the root cause?
Anne Boleyn. Death by beheading (and a slight tickly cough).
Donald Campbell: blitzed into a million pieces on Lake Coniston (and a nice shout out to the cancerous lung he had from 100 Bensons a day)

Ha Ha
Almost as good as deaths that occured within 28 days of a positive test when there was an R in the month.

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland over past 3 weeks


Deaths 0 v 7 v 3 v 13 today

Cases 639 v 863 v 913 v 722 today. Circuit breaker impact seems real in case reduction.

Patients 85 v 150 v 286 v 360 today - 76% rise v 91% v 26% - suggesting again some impact from the circuit break,

Ventilators 8 v 15 v 25 v 33 today - a steady fall in the increase to 32% from nearly 3 times that level. But the rising deaths will impact this so not wise to conclude anything here.

 

[grunge]

Well I know this is anecdotal. since this started I was hearing the odd 2nd/3rd hand story of people getting it. however in the last week i know 4 1st hand, 3 from the NW and 1 from down south.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Irrelevant except for not covering the mouth or nose. They stop the wearer spreading the disease

Irrelevant except for not covering the mouth or nose - you mean the most important thing

 

[Healdplace]

So a really disturbing UK hospital death total today of 252. A number we have not seen since 5 June.

Last week it was 162. Week before 106. Week before 53.

That is a rise of 100% v 51% v 55%. Less promising.

Though deaths as I keep stressing will be the last numbers to change.

And England are the biggest contributor to this rise.