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BlueAnorak said:
We are totally fucked with knobheads like this around...
BBC News - Bristol illegal rave attended by 700 people
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Bristol illegal rave attended by 700 people

Some of the crowd became violent as they were told to leave, Avon and Somerset Police said.
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I like a rave as much as the next man, but haven't been to any this year as I think it's incredibly lame given the current climate and the fact this just makes things worse. The organisers want belting around the head.
 
kaz7 said:
Because we can all spread it ,the more the cases are the more will die and suffer life changing damage it is not all about individuals

We have to slow the spread to get through the winter , there is literally no other way to keep the nhs going

As an ex nurse i want the nhs to keep going and i dont want anyone to get it and long covid , that is affecting all age groups and even if you had mild symptoms

There is no easy answer, every which way is shite

Look at it this way , we have about five more months to get through till it easiest off and we have a vaccine or two and better treatments , a year in total of being inconvienced by a deadly virus spread all around the world, did you expect it would be over by now ? We have to make the best of a bad job and behave sensibly and protect each other ,sadly humans are set to be selfish

Look at your busnesses, can you diversify , claim every financial help going, do what you can

I am still on the side of the economy will recover, it always does

Life is not supposed to be easy or fair, you just have to ride it out
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Fair play for your outlook and it is commendable, but you can't expect everyone to feel the same way as you. I also think you are being perhaps overly optimistic about a vaccine. But, and I might get flamed for this but hey. Not everyone is in a situation where they can or want to ride it out.

I know people whose businesses have gone under, and the longer we have lockdowns the worse that will be across the board. I know people who are struggling mentally and mental health sometimes gets dismissed on here but it is important. My parents both had covid, they were really ill but they beat it, because they are healthy and eat well, exercise and thankfully no existing conditions.They are old, and don't want to be told they can't do things at their age, and I don't blame them! Currently where I live like most places we are advised to work at home, the line of work I am in has a dispensation for people in the office, so I have started going back in to work. Is that selfish? Maybe, do I feel mentally a whole lot better for going to work, 100%.

The economy won't recover as such, it will just change. Big corps will get stronger, and your sole trader will die. I think on the scale of things governments aren't really bothered about that. This is a mess, and I don't have the answers and find the rhetoric from the government all over the place. I am for isolation, for vulnerable people yes. If covid was a disease that made your face fall off if you came into contact with it then hell yeah we should all isolate, but there has to be a better way of dealing with a virus that won't affect the vast majority of people. It's not going anywhere, and is a part of life now. On my first point, credit for your outlook and positivity, but don't expect everyone to feel the same way.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
If Biden gets in, they will more than likely be much better at being able to get it under control. He will at least attempt to work with the states and governers. At this point, it's clear Trump could not give a shit.
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Possibly. But when could that be? From what I understand, there's a transition period and it usually takes until January for the presidency to really begin.
 
BlueAnorak said:
We are totally fucked with knobheads like this around...
BBC News - Bristol illegal rave attended by 700 people
www.bbc.co.uk

Bristol illegal rave attended by 700 people

Some of the crowd became violent as they were told to leave, Avon and Somerset Police said.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Get the riot squad and police horses in and batton charge the lot of them. i really couldnt care what they do as long as they stop these selfish actions occuring.
 
itsnevereasy said:
So why would you be so insistent that a virus that does nothing to the majority of people be allowed ruin ruin some many people life’s. I get you got it bad, and hope you recover but for the vast majority of the population they won’t get it as bad.

All a lockdown does is pause the spread - it won’t stop it, nothing will. The economy cannot carry on like this.

I’ve personally been lucky that my job is (touch wood) still needed. But I have seen far more people suffering through the damage to the economy than I have from getting this virus. Life is short and we cannot spend it existing by running away from something that only efforts a small amount of the population. Life should be enjoyable- being told to say in a box isn’t enjoyable.
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I suspect gasping for air on a ventalator isn't a barrel of laughs. Given the choice, which would you prefer?
 
oman0115 said:
Fair play for your outlook and it is commendable, but you can't expect everyone to feel the same way as you. I also think you are being perhaps overly optimistic about a vaccine. But, and I might get flamed for this but hey. Not everyone is in a situation where they can or want to ride it out.

I know people whose businesses have gone under, and the longer we have lockdowns the worse that will be across the board. I know people who are struggling mentally and mental health sometimes gets dismissed on here but it is important. My parents both had covid, they were really ill but they beat it, because they are healthy and eat well, exercise and thankfully no existing conditions.They are old, and don't want to be told they can't do things at their age, and I don't blame them! Currently where I live like most places we are advised to work at home, the line of work I am in has a dispensation for people in the office, so I have started going back in to work. Is that selfish? Maybe, do I feel mentally a whole lot better for going to work, 100%.

The economy won't recover as such, it will just change. Big corps will get stronger, and your sole trader will die. I think on the scale of things governments aren't really bothered about that. This is a mess, and I don't have the answers and find the rhetoric from the government all over the place. I am for isolation, for vulnerable people yes. If covid was a disease that made your face fall off if you came into contact with it then hell yeah we should all isolate, but there has to be a better way of dealing with a virus that won't affect the vast majority of people. It's not going anywhere, and is a part of life now. On my first point, credit for your outlook and positivity, but don't expect everyone to feel the same way.
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Oh yeah, i dont expect people to agree with me ,, my mental health is on the edge when i had control of it before so i get it
 
Healdplace said:
Regional scoreboard:

London 2056 - up from 1588

Midlands 3254 - down from 4159

North East - up just 7 to 1170

Yorkshire up to 3800 from 3638.

North West - down over 500 to 4045. Lowest in 9 days.

This is the smallest gap between Yorkshire and NW in some time.

Better day for the region.
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Do find it odd with the London figures as they jump a few hundred one day, and then drop a few hundred the following day. I guess it's a data collection issue.
 
seantheduck said:
Gutted that Golf Courses to close as well.....the only thing I was enjoying was the friday fourball with mates, walk outside risk low.... FFS......kept me sane over last few months. I have not been out of house much since March, worked from home the whole time, 3 holidays cancelled, have kept to all the rules........BUT keep telling myself 1000s of others alot worse off than me! WORDS FAIL ME WHEN IT COMES TO THIS GOVERNMENT AND SO CALLED LEADERS....fuckwits all of them, wasted billions and we are fucking no better off and little hope......oh, and Brexit to come in 10 weeks. HAPPY FUCKING CHRISTMAS BORIS YOU USELESS C**T!
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petition.parliament.uk

Archived Petition: Exempt golf courses from the list of venues required to close due to Covid-19

Isolation essential to the Government’s strategy for fighting coronavirus, and UK citizens must remain healthy and exercise whilst keeping adequate distance between people. The Government should allow golf courses to open so families or individuals can play golf in order to exercise safely.
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kaz7 said:
I caught sight of myself in the mirror the other day , shit , when did that happen ,ha
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I do that these days and see my Gran!! It's odd when you are the same age as they once were and can remember what they look like lol.
On a more Covid note and in reference to what another poster said re deaths; if my Gran was asked which life was more worth saving, hers (and she was 88 when she passed) or someone much younger, she would have said the younger person. Every time.
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
I'm not offering an opinion on Covid specifically. I'm merely stating that your appeal to authority argument is a fallacy. I think it's far more dangerous if something is not allowed to be challenged or scrutinised because the "experts" say so. How do you know that the so called "experts" are not lying to you if they are not open to scrutiny?
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Not only that but they’re bringing in the biggest restrictions on the population since the advent of democracy. They never did anything like this in wartime. That lunatic in Wales saying if the police don’t catch you, others will. Sounds a bit sinister and a bit 1984 but, apparently, you’re some sort of flat earth advocate if you ask about it. Strange times we are living in...,
 
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mackenzie said:
I do that these days and see my Gran!! It's odd when you are the same age as they once were and can remember what they look like lol.
On a more Covid note and in reference to what another poster said re deaths; if my Gran was asked which life was more worth saving, hers (and she was 88 when she passed) or someone much younger, she would have said the younger person. Every time.
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I wouldnt like to have to choose between my children aged 31,30,20 and 18 or my parents/parents in law 87, 81, 80. I love them all. But I know my parents/in laws would sacrifice themselves a thousand times over for their grandchildren.
 
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