2020 US Elections

[SWP's back]

Possibly not there, but Nevada is not easy to read voting patterns.

But it's entirely postal votes.

 

[Phil1]

Would be great to hear Niall Quinn recreate his famous line

:-)

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

No they were right. Not sure where your maths are at on this matey.

Think I was accidentally counting Arizona as 10 rather than 11

 

[kaz7]

Any news ? I went off to loose women for some sanity

 

[SWP's back]

I don't suppose anybody else sees an irony in supporters of a Party that claims that it has to protect the American system of politics from the takeover of Trump also suggesting that it should throw out the American system of politics and pack the Supreme Court?

No?

1) Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative and hasn't been Liberal since 1970. The last 5 justices have been elected by a party that received fewer votes.

2) Electoral college not remotely democratic and was set up to protect a bunch of white, rich slave owners.

3) How can anyone remotely argue that a popular vote is less democratic than the current system?

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

I don't want to count my chickens but I think Biden has this now

 

[SWP's back]

Any news ? I went off to loose women for some sanity

I went off loose women years ago and married.

 

[domalino]

In 2018 Florida voted to allow 1.5m ex-felons to have the vote again.

The Republican Governor refused to pass the act, tied it up in the courts for 2 years, failed, implemented an illegal poll tax, held that up with a republican judge and slowing the appeals process and yesterday the Republicans won Florida by 300k votes.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Biden may end up winning Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

And Georgia. Landslide.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I don't suppose anybody else sees an irony in supporters of a Party that claims that it has to protect the American system of politics from the takeover of Trump also suggesting that it should throw out the American system of politics and pack the Supreme Court?

No?

The only reason Dem's would increase the size of the Supreme Court would be to redress the balance. Also, there is a huge difference between a Democrat pick for the SC and a Republican pick for the SC as you well know.

 

[supercity88]

Time for change>?

That's a tough one in a country the size of the US. If you imagined Europe having a US style election then would it be fair to count as a total or for each country to have its own "voice" proportionate to its population. Our system in the UK enables a party to win the election without winning the popular vote too. It's only happened twice in history though due to the population: MP ratio.

 

[yankblue]

And Georgia. Landslide.

True, Georgia looks like a tossup. North Carolina looks like the only one out of reach.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

But it's entirely postal votes.

Reports are the postal votes in Nevada are said to be showing mixed messages from different districts compared to elsewhere.

 

[@BluePhil8]

1) Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative and hasn't been Liberal since 1970. The last 5 justices have been elected by a party that received fewer votes.

2) Electoral college not remotely democratic and was set up to protect a bunch of white, rich slave owners.

3) How can anyone remotely argue that a popular vote is less democratic than the current system?

I’m not saying one is better than the other, but my simplistic understanding is that if the popular vote is the decider, surely candidates would just pander to the large coastal cities and ignore middle America. When in power, they’d surely put more resources in to the large coastal cities as they are the deciders for re-election. Am I wrong in this?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Would be great to hear Niall Quinn recreate his famous line

"Feck it. Anyone fancy a Guinness"?

 

[Akpowell]

I don't want to count my chickens but I think Biden has this now

Jinxed it now

 

[yankblue]

I’m not saying one is better than the other, but my simplistic understanding is that if the popular vote is the decider, surely candidates would just pander to the large coastal cities and ignore middle America. When in power, they’d surely put more resources in to the large coastal cities as they are the deciders for re-election. Am I wrong in this?

Call me crazy but I think that the large coastal cities where the majority of people live should be pandered to over bumfuck counties in the middle of the country

 

[domalino]

I don't suppose anybody else sees an irony in supporters of a Party that claims that it has to protect the American system of politics from the takeover of Trump also suggesting that it should throw out the American system of politics and pack the Supreme Court?

No?

There is no irony or hypocrisy there.

The Electoral college is undemocratic, so throwing it out is the democratic thing to do.

The Supreme Court has been added to very legitimately all through American history. 7 times it's been changed in size because 1 party took things too far.

 

[@BluePhil8]

Call me crazy but I think that the large coastal cities where the majority of people live should be pandered to over bumfuck counties in the middle of the country

Well I can’t say I agree with that mate, having seen towns in Northern England with barely any investment, closed shops, fewer jobs, run down housing etc.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Always amazes me how many Brits get wound up in American Presidential elections, the same as the news organisations. I genuinely believe the majority of people over here couldn't really care who is elected president. I find Trumps character deeply unpleasant and hes clearly very divisive but it doesn't actually affect me if he gets in or not. That said he could be worse, compare him to Xi Jinping and Trumps an absolute saint, yet no one on here seems to bat as much as an eyelid over China's totalitarian regime, internal human rights or expansionist aggressive foreign policy, which are all far worse currently than the Yanks.