COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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You are entitled to deny everything, it doesn't stop it from being the truth that our actions affect each other. You can stick your fingers in your ears and scream, or make it sound philosophical. But you'll still be doing the same thing, refusing to take personal responsibility. Responsibility has always gone hand in hand with freedom. That's democracy.

Part of the price we pay for preserving our freedoms is knowing some people will always play it so they don't take responsibility. You can face that, or you can wrap it up in words, deny all knowledge of risk, or the effects our actions have. But they are not in question. The doctors and scientists have reached a consensus view.

The fact is, the more people refuse to follow the measures now, the more restrictions we will face, and for longer. That, again, is society, medicine, government and the judiciary all doing what they always do, what they always have done - managing the balance between our individuals freedom and the harm we can do to each other and the country.
 
Only if you have the virus PATD you cannot spread something you don't have and not if you social distance and have covid safe shops.

Given the droplets are too dense to do anything other than drop onto a flat surface it would be better if everyone wore gloves because its far less likely you will inhale touch your nose and mouth wearing gloves especially leather ones than wearing a mask that itches and scratches and cause acne break outs and rashes and increase the chances of breathing in Co2 etc etc.

Can't figure out why glove sales haven't gone through the roof to be honest.

I don't wear a mask for health reasons , you would be surprised how much damage wearing a mask can do for your long term health particularly if you keep one for long periods of time.

Masks should be individual choice taking your own health and your own circumstance into consideration.

Forcing someone to wear one and having a fine hanging on the end of not wearing one does not for a better more democratic society make.

In saying that its no surprise that on 3.5 per cent of those fined to date in Australia have paid them and the rest won't get prosecuted because prosecutions have ground to a stand still in the Magistrates Courts due to the Covid Response.

i have a case in court against a sociopathic thug going on or not as they case may be at present as the matter has been adjourned for 12 months.

Unheard cases in Melbourne are up 1000 fold in the past 8 months (LOL).

plenty of criminals that should be in jail or sacked from their jobs getting a free pass.

55.6 million cases reported to date probably more like 300 million IMO still only 4 per cent of the world population.

1.3 million reported dead with or from the virus most of those with rather than from probably more like 3 million in truth.

Pandemic yes , high transmission yes , take seriously yes , overreach by government in response yes.

the old saying if you want to waste a dollar give it to governments and bureaucrats to spend , if you want a poor response to a health issue give it to government to handle it.

mental health visitations , elective surgeries , suicides , build up of screens , business collapses , rent reduction , bankruptcies , domestic violence , divorce increased many fold I could go on.

Too many countries have over reacted to the virus , spread unnecessary fear and made poor decisions when it comes to quarantine protocol and not protected the vulnerable.

How about that idiot in New York that sent covid positive people into nursing homes FFS.

He not only should have sacked and replace by a pot plant ( living one ) but court marshalled and jailed to join some covid positive prisoners yet half the population in New York still suffering from Stockholm Syndrome still think he did a good job.
One of the best posts on here for a bit
 
Cases back up a bit today to 22, 915 - over 3000 rise.

Testing pillar 1 & 2 well up though today.

From 217, 250 two days ago to 271, 573 yesterday to 336, 942 today.
 
One of the best posts on here for a bit

It's comfortably the second worst today behind Cheesy, with hogwash about masks when everyone knows their importance and benefit and the danger posed by those in enclosed spaces who don't wear them.

Would have been more honest for them to just admit they're not a decent, responsible human being and be done with it.
 
All settings deaths 501. That is down on yesterday and a lot down on Tuesday and also down from 563 last Thursday.

Higher than we had hoped but signs of a levelling off still there.
 
And I respect that to be your choice, and it is a choice we all can make. Somehow we have got to this crazy situation, where seeing your extended family on Christmas is no longer a choice, Hence why so many will be giving the government the middle finger! I know you and a few others on here are really passionate about us all being locked down and are quite terrified of this virus, but don't expect us all to feel the same. And please try not to wish ill or harm on individuals who don't feel how you do.
Anyone who ignores the prevailing law at the time should get a fat £10,000 reminder of their civic duty.
 
Last Thursday was the 33,000 anomaly of cases still unexplained - so technically it has fallen 11,000 in a week - even though it is today to 22K. The media quickly reported how high that 33K was. I doubt they will be so quick to note that 11K week to week fall.
 
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