Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

I wonder how many of those who were happy with a League Cup last season were pissing themselves laughing at united's "treble" under Mourinho.

I personally half worried they would build on it and become regular contenders.

Than our amazing season where they finishednsecond to us, and a knee jerk reaction from their board set them back a number of years.

The same could happen to us, how we, as a whole club, respond to liverpool's achievement last season could define the next few.
 
That is true.

We are 8 games into the season. Premature to conclude we are incapable of responding. The fact the club have just given pep a further 2 years suggests they believe we can.
Obviously the case but would the club accept the possibility of missing out on Champions Leagues games next season, this is no easy quick fix, you simply can't revitalise players running on empty.

And that's our biggest issue, no doubt we easily have the talent for top 4 but most of our players are shattered and have been for some considerable time.

The clubs at the top of the Premier not involved in Euro competitions have a huge advantage.
 
Totally agree with what you say in terms of preparation, Pep's attention to detail is incredible, but in these circumstances it's impossible and will be probably be next season to and added to the fact of a major International tournament at the end of this season.

So a serious question, do we have to write off this season and maybe next season? With the extra possibility of missing the champions league qualification.

I think it's too early to write off this season just yet. Let's see what happens and then think about next year.

We've lost some real world class players without replacing them (for reasons that I suspect are more complex than just poor scouting) so we've undergone an involuntary deconstruction of the greatest side British football has seen. The drop-off was always going to look dramatic but the reconstruction, when it comes may well be equally dramatic.

What I, personally, wouldn't want us to do is to change the free-flowing, attacking culture which has been so hard to embed for short-term gains. Too many clubs have fallen into that trap.
 
The game has seriously moved on from that wonderful Barca model.

Like it or not, the likes of Klopp have moved the goalposts, we now as a club have to repond.
It really hasn't, teams played like klopp before Barca, teams played like Barca before barca,there is nothing new in football,klopp hasn't invented something new. You pick your style and you do it well. We aren't doing it well at the moment , Pep isn't blind he isn't stupid,it's difficult at the moment. He'll get things sorted and we'll start scoring and winning again.
 
Think the next 2 years of Peps reign rests solely on The midfield getting a complete revamp

cut our loses on Rodri, get rid and replace him

replace Ferna he will be leaving in summer

ideally i’d get shut of Gundo too but doubt it will happen due to age and length of the contract


left back and striker need sorting as well but we’ve won the league with similar options

it’s midfield where the big drop off has come

It’s worrying though that the only 2 CM’s pep has signed are Gund and rodri, doesn’t bode well
 
He picks the team I get what your saying however if we have 5-6chamces to finish sitters and we don’t you surely can’t say oh he picked a shitty team. The players get immense wages to produce and they are not. Pep is very stubborn he does questionable stuff but a lot of the fault has to come on the players too. Some seem like they have no desire.
Dont worry, York away is fun.
 
Think the next 2 years of Peps reign rests solely on The midfield getting a complete revamp

cut our loses on Rodri, get rid and replace him

replace Ferna he will be leaving in summer

ideally i’d get shut of Gundo too but doubt it will happen due to age and length of the contract


left back and striker need sorting as well but we’ve won the league with similar options

it’s midfield where the big drop off has come

It’s worrying though that the only 2 CM’s pep has signed are Gund and rodri, doesn’t bode well
This is how I feel too. I honestly want a complete gutting of the midfield, but I know it won’t happen. Even Bernardo has to soon come into the sale category if there’s no sign of improvement. He’s giving us nothing, let’s be honest. He had so much credit in the bank but I don’t know how long he can rely on that.

Rodri, Fernandinho, Gundogan and potentially Bernardo all need replacements. 3 or 4 new midfielders needed. And they need to be top drawer otherwise we are mediocrity for a while until the failed replacements leave and we can try to rebuild it again. Also bear in mind KDB is nearly 30 and has had fitness issues. His decline is already beginning. He still has some years in him but it would be nice if we don’t make the same mistake AGAIN and have him as a key player at about 33/34 years of age.

We have a huge midfield problem and need to have a proper succession plan in place. Do we?
 
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I personally half worried they would build on it and become regular contenders.

Than our amazing season where they finishednsecond to us, and a knee jerk reaction from their board set them back a number of years.

The same could happen to us, how we, as a whole club, respond to liverpool's achievement last season could define the next few.

I've not had a whole lot of faith in Pep for a while but I'd say we're more likely to win Premier League and Champions League double this season than Mourinho would have been to ever achieve those things for united. They're ruled by players, profit and public opinion. That's not a good foundation for any manager.

It's night and day when you compare how they're run to how well we are. Not to mention the amount of red carpet we've rolled out for Pep.
 
Go on then, give us recent examples of successful teams with long serving managers. Because I can't think of any.

People might want a long term manager but we don't need one. There's no reason to think otherwise.

Edit: and Chelsea are the second most successful English club of the last decade after us.
You could argue that, 3 times out of 5, staleness sets in.....see rags and the Arse. But both were successful for many years, as were eg pool under Shankley. So, I'm not sure there is a real pattern.
Changing managers every 5 mins under Swales did us no good!
 
Needs to come up with better solutions than just throwing money at the problem.

The squads regressed which is to be expected with some of the legends that have moved on and the age of the remaining ones, but he still should be getting more out of what we’ve got.

Khaldoon has always been pretty cut throat when it’s come to managers, however he’s fully doubled down on Pep here and to give him a pay rise on top of a 2 year extension looks pretty questionable given our performances over the last 12-18months
 
You could argue that, 3 times out of 5, staleness sets in.....see rags and the Arse. But both were successful for many years, as were eg pool under Shankley. So, I'm not sure there is a real pattern.
Changing managers every 5 mins under Swales did us no good!

Shankly and Ferguson were from decades ago. The latter wouldn't be able to build what he did if he took over any club now because it's a different sport. Rightly or wrongly, he'd have been sacked a season or two in.

But you're right, there is no pattern. Which is exactly why it's nonsensical that people think a long term manager is an inherently good thing.
 
This can go either way. Pep gets his mojo back and we win the holy grail the owners want. Then he leaves and who do we replace him with.
Alternatively we get knocked out in the later stages of the Champions Lge and then miss out on top 6 place. Pep leaves and who do we replace him with.
I feel we've just kicked the can down the road. If we don't have a replacement already in view then that means we're asleep at the wheel.
I'd like to think we had a strategy in place but if the way we've let great players age without a replacement it does not bode well.
 
This can go either way. Pep gets his mojo back and we win the holy grail the owners want. Then he leaves and who do we replace him with.
Alternatively we get knocked out in the later stages of the Champions Lge and then miss out on top 6 place. Pep leaves and who do we replace him with.
I feel we've just kicked the can down the road. If we don't have a replacement already in view then that means we're asleep at the wheel.
I'd like to think we had a strategy in place but if the way we've let great players age without a replacement it does not bode well.
My bet is we have 3 or 4 under observation. The old european guard, a great cadre of coaches, are getting older. I hope we are looking at the younger guys.
 
Pep Guardiola is the greatest manager in football history. Can't believe some blues want him out so we can replace him with someone who's greatest achievement is getting beat in a Champions League semi final....
 
Great news!

We're obviously in need of a window to address some problems - press isn't fast enough (our holding midfielders lack pace); LB needs an upgrade (Ake might actually be good enough for a title run - I don't trust other players at left back defensively); scoring is off.

It looks as if we might well sign Messi in the Winter window - that will likely fix our scoring woes - if we somehow sign a pacy DM as well, we're poised to make a title run (assuming we don't drop too many points until Winter signings are in our squad) as well as a great shot at the C/L title.
 
I'd be looking to replace Mahrez,Gundogan,Mendy,Zinchenko,Bernardo,StonesAguero and,if the right replacement was available,Sterling.

A couple of those can be done via the academy.
 
Pep Guardiola is the greatest manager in football history. Can't believe some blues want him out so we can replace him with someone who's greatest achievement is getting beat in a Champions League semi final....
Take your blue tinted specs off pal. Pep has a fair way to go yet before he catches Fergie up. Many blues find it hard to accept how successful a manager he's been for some strange reason. Guardiola is nowhere near as successful as Ferguson at the moment.
 

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