COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Might already have been mentioned, infact probably has, but good chance he's just trying to improve the level of uptake in US given there's reportedly more skepticism there than over here. If he can publicise how stringent their checks have been, then criticising other countries approach might be a small price to pay. Hopefully it doesn't hinder the confidence levels here but could have good effect over across the pond? Just thinking out loud tbh.

and if they want to prove they've tested it more, it's only to the benefit of the general public.

 

[Healdplace]

I understand entirely. Cleavers. I feel like giving up sometimes too, But it has become my daily challenge.

On the all settings deaths data accurately ascribed to the actual date of that peak - 18 Nov - the England all settings total is 430 - the highest by some distance. The previous peak date of 9 Nov has 404 England all settings deaths.

Even after all the redistributions since those dates they remain the two peaks of this wave and are the only two dates where England all settings have topped 400. No other date before or since looks likely to do so either for now.

The last time the all settings England deaths correctly attributed to the date of death on the certificate topped 400 was 4 May a month after the peak of wave 1.Then coming down of course - as hopefully is true now.

The peak of wave one was on 8 April when the all settings England only deaths were 975. Only two days then topped 900.

So the wave 2 peak at present in England is less than half that of wave 1 in April.

We can only hope it stays that way. As - terrible as this is - it could have been a lot worse.

 

[Ban-jani]

As much as I’ve been critical of the government throughout this pandemic, with regards to this issue I’m pretty sure Williamson’s comments - although unhelpful - came after the US and EU gobbed off that the UK cut corners in getting the Pfizer vaccine approved. I said this morning that they should provide evidence of any corner cutting rather than mouthing off. My guess is that Williamson’s comments are in response to what has been thrown our way. Bunch of bitter salty cunts should be looking at getting their own approval stamp on the vaccine.

Even if that is true, even if it is, Williamson stating we’re a better country is absolutely ridiculous and is like a child bragging their toys are bigger.

It could well and probably has come out of Donald Trump’s mouth.

I totally cringed when he said that.

 

[inchy14]

NHS staff no longer at front of queue for Covid vaccine after rethink

Change to priority list for next few weeks likely to worry and disappoint health workers

www.theguardian.com

Looks like a change of plan

Care workers and over 80’s first ... when you add in the fact they sent sick people back to care homes which killed them and made it spread rapidly it makes you wonder whether it’s a ploy to get rid of all the elderly who drain money instead of paying for themselves..... call me cynical but.....

 

[M18CTID]

They did, but it's about time some of our lot "engaged brain", considering how badly we've actually done, trying to "point score" is just idiotic and unhelpful.

I don’t disagree but for once we’re not the villain here. Unless Fauci and the EU can back up their shit, then their pontificating is worse than pathetic. They should be getting their own house in order wrt getting approval because the daily death numbers from Covid-19 in the States and some EU countries are at record highs. Nearly 700 in Poland today and the last 3 days have been Germany’s worst 3 days for numbers of deaths during the whole pandemic.

 

[squirtyflower]

It’s laughable, as they will all approve it anyway.

Exactly.
We‘ve been lax and can’t do our jobs properly.
Meanwhile the exemplary EU and the brilliant US are laughing at how stupid we are, but will ok it next week or maybe the end of the month.

Supercilious cunts seeing their arses over a fucking registration.

 

[M18CTID]

Even if that is true, even if it is, Williamson stating we’re a better country is absolutely ridiculous and is like a child bragging their toys are bigger.

It could well and probably has come out of Donald Trump’s mouth.

I totally cringed when he said that.

Of course it’s cringeworthy but slagging off another country for getting emergency approval for a vaccine is ten times worse and potentially damaging in terms of take up. For once, our government aren’t the biggest cunts in this pathetic spat which was started by others.

 

[cleavers]

I understand entirely. Cleavers. I feel like giving up sometimes too, But it has become my daily challenge.

On the all settings deaths data accurately ascribed to the actual date of that peak - 18 Nov - the England all settings total is 430 - the highest by some distance. The previous peak date of 9 Nov has 404 England all settings deaths.

Even after all the redistributions since those dates they remain the two peaks of this wave and are the only two dates where England all settings have topped 400. No other date before or since looks likely to do so either for now.

The last time the all settings England deaths correctly attributed to the date of death on the certificate topped 400 was 4 May a month after the peak of wave 1.Then coming down of course - as hopefully is true now.

The peak of wave one was on 8 April when the all settings England only deaths were 975. Only two days then topped 900.

So the wave 2 peak at present in England is less than half that of wave 1 in April.

We can only hope it stays that way. As - terrible as this is - it could have been a lot worse.

Yes totally agree, it's good to know its less than half, even if it's still quite a horrible number, and given the current testing levels, it does make you wonder how many actually had it in that first wave ?

 

[M18CTID]

Exactly.
We‘ve been lax and can’t do our jobs properly.
Meanwhile the exemplary EU and the brilliant US are laughing at how stupid we are, but will ok it next week or maybe the end of the month.

Supercilious cunts seeing their arses over a fucking registration.

I honestly can’t believe some are giving Fauci and the EU a free pass on this.

 

[squirtyflower]

I honestly can’t believe some are giving Fauci and the EU a free pass on this.

And yesterday we had David Lammy tweeting we were lying, claiming that we were still alongside the EU.
For once they got it right and deserve the credit, but it seems people would like to criticise them regardless of outcome.

 

[cleavers]

And yesterday we had David Lammy tweeting we were lying, claiming that we were still alongside the EU.
For once they got it right and deserve the credit, but it seems people would like to criticise them regardless of outcome.

I think criticising our ministers for being idiots for engaging in a silly row is a fair point, and it's certainly not siding with another country/organisation mouthpieces going off on one.

Can't say I can be arsed what others say about us doing it first, more that our people have done it right, so why did they not just counter with proof we've done what we always do, just much quicker, and ask them for their proof that we haven't ?

Silence would surely follow.

 

[twosips]

As much as I’ve been critical of the government throughout this pandemic, with regards to this issue I’m pretty sure Williamson’s comments - although unhelpful - came after the US and EU gobbed off that the UK cut corners in getting the Pfizer vaccine approved. I said this morning that they should provide evidence of any corner cutting rather than mouthing off. My guess is that Williamson’s comments are in response to what has been thrown our way. Bunch of bitter salty cunts should be looking at getting their own approval stamp on the vaccine.

Williamson's comments were this morning and I swear these comments have come out in the afternoon onwards. Feel free to correct me. Facui's were certainly today.

 

[squirtyflower]

I think criticising our ministers for being idiots for engaging in a silly row is a fair point, and it's certainly not siding with another country/organisation mouthpieces going off on one.

Can't say I can be arsed what others say about us doing it first, more that our people have done it right, so why did they not just counter with proof we've done what we always do, just much quicker, and ask them for their proof that we haven't ?

Silence would surely follow.

The first comments I read from anyone, was yesterday morning, and it was Lammy.
Since then that baton has been taken up by others criticising what we have done.

I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out those calling me a liar are liars. Just Williamson is the wrong one to do anything right.

Seems we have a number of people in this country would like to see us fail at everything to prove their own political stance.
Its all rather sad.

 

[Ric]

Even if that is true, even if it is, Williamson stating we’re a better country is absolutely ridiculous and is like a child bragging their toys are bigger.

It could well and probably has come out of Donald Trump’s mouth.

I totally cringed when he said that.

The man is an absolute embarrassment.

 

[Ban-jani]

I honestly can’t believe some are giving Fauci and the EU a free pass on this.

Not a free pass at all but I’m British and I care more about what our Ministers are doing and saying.

I am fairly sure but happy to be proven wrong, that our comments about Brexit came first, which I do think was correct in terms of the claim but point scoring in the middle of this shit show, when we need friends, is pathetic.

I think very highly of our country, generally speaking and I actually like to think that we needn’t go around bragging, as bragging makes you look insecure.

We’re a great country without the need of some jumped up public schoolboy, who should have been sacked for what he did under the last administration, running his mouth about how great we are and claiming we’re a better country than our biggest allies.

Is the idiotic spineless little twunt aware we’re trying to secure a huge trade deal with one of them?

 

[Toney’s bookie]

Fauci apologises for saying UK 'rushed' vaccine

After apparent criticism from the US expert, the UK defended the safety and efficacy of the vaccine.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fauci apologises. They'll approve it soon enough so it would look a bit silly to suggest scrutiny wasn't up to standard.

However, I found it interesting that our regulator takes the pharma company's analysis rather than doing its own. I say this as the Boeing 737 Max thread has re-appeared and we are all probably aware the main issue with that plane was that the regulator just took Boeing's word for gospel instead of doing its own due diligence (regulatory capture).

 

[Tim of the Oak]

And yesterday we had David Lammy tweeting we were lying, claiming that we were still alongside the EU.
For once they got it right and deserve the credit, but it seems people would like to criticise them regardless of outcome.

Fauci has apologised and the Government were bullshitting about Brexit. The procurement of vaccines is an area that the Government has got right so claiming BioNtech / Pfizer vaccine was a success for U.K. nationalism was misleading.

 

[squirtyflower]

Fauci has apologised and the Government were bullshitting about Brexit. The procurement of vaccines is an area that the Government has got right so claiming BioNtech / Pfizer vaccine was a success for U.K. nationalism was misleading.

Why did someone as respectable and politically astute as Faucci make such a faux-pas.
Not being a part of the EU’s vaccine procurement programme seems to have worked well for us, at the moment.
However, without Brexit it is unlikely we would have done so, and also pass the vaccine so quickly as other large States have reacted more slowly.

 

[Ric]

And yesterday we had David Lammy tweeting we were lying, claiming that we were still alongside the EU.
For once they got it right and deserve the credit, but it seems people would like to criticise them regardless of outcome.

Lammy accused Rees-Mogg of lying, and was seemingly vindicated from what I can tell?

 

[peter.evans]

Not a free pass at all but I’m British and I care more about what our Ministers are doing and saying.

I am fairly sure but happy to be proven wrong, that our comments about Brexit came first, which I do think was correct in terms of the claim but point scoring in the middle of this shit show, when we need friends, is pathetic.

I think very highly of our country, generally speaking and I actually like to think that we needn’t go around bragging, as bragging makes you look insecure.

We’re a great country without the need of some jumped up public schoolboy, who should have been sacked for what he did under the last administration, running his mouth about how great we are and claiming we’re a better country than our biggest allies.

Is the idiotic spineless little twunt aware we’re trying to secure a huge trade deal with one of them?

Exactly ! He should have gone last summer and comes out with this crap the obnoxious twat.