COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Have to say I’m beginning to come round to the fact that at some point people are just going to say FUCK IT, we cannot carry on like this, I’m in the fortunate position of both of us still earning but others are really going to struggle after this 3 months that the government have been furloughed.
After the crash in 2007 I said to my now wife it would be 15-20 of austerity and as a public sector worker I’ve born the brunt of that with basically a real term cut in pay of around £5k, austerity will now carry on for another 15 years. There will be a generation of workers in both public and private who are basically paying for the debt of the country for most of their working lives.
I don’t know the answer but my elderly parents have accepted lockdown and if it’s a year so be it, what will happen though is we will get tests and then go visit them properly but not before, kids are going to have to go back to school, masks and cleanliness will be the new norm and I think people will just change their habits to not come into contact with people if they don’t have to. Football isn’t coming back for a long time.

Are you both on full pay and working from home?

There’s lots of people struggling but the majority of the population are sticking by the rules to safeguards communities (even people with no income).
 
Every day the media has been asking when the exit strategy will begin.
If it starts on Friday the media will be asking why has the exit strategy begun.

they are just reporting what the public is demanding - most people I know are asking when it’s gonna be lifted
 
Long term, some things will change for the better. I think peoples 'work life balance' will forever be changed for the better.

No fucking way am I doing 5 days a week in an office going forward.

I think that change will filter through, a lot of people will be saying the same, a lot of bosses will already be looking at it, if/how it can be, partially at least, maintained. And there really is no reason it can't/shouldn't.

If you follow that logic through, it might have an impact then on speculative developers building offices, those involved in their construction, the rates that the council/gov get back, erc etc, which goes back to the long term changes to the economy. Not to say other sectors wouldn't benefit instead, such as technology, services etc.

There are indeed likely to be longer term changes to our work/culture and attitudes, i agree with that.
 
Although we have lagged behind on the testing many other countries have been ahead of the curve, you would imagne with the data now available they should be a degree in accuracy regarding what percentage of the population have actually contracted the virus.

I read it could be as low as just 5% - 10% at the moment.
 
I'll have your p45 in the post tomorrow. Signed , Your Boss

Perhaps. Bosses like that may see their businesses go under, longer term, they will struggle to keep and attract staff.

I am someone who will welcome returning to my workplace btw. Just trying to acknowledge that a shift is likely to come out of this.
 
what I genuinely don't understand is where the numbers are relatively small, why the fuck are we not doing proper contact tracing at all? Its the same in Scotland, on the face of it the daily numbers look manageable to trace contacts and quarantine them.
In the words of the UK's main coronavirus task force man Sir Pat Vallance,
'If you suppress something very, very hard, when you release those measures it bounces back and it bounces back at the wrong time". It makes sense. It's rational. As is total suppression. The two approaches stem from different outlooks for the medicine.
 
what I genuinely don't understand is where the numbers are relatively small, why the fuck are we not doing proper contact tracing at all? Its the same in Scotland, on the face of it the daily numbers look manageable to trace contacts and quarantine them.

It might be to do with with the transfer of Public Health to Local Authorities some years ago and I don’t think there is confidence in the capacity to trace contacts etc. I am not sure but that would partly explain the dependence on a tracing App becoming available.
 
Have to say I’m beginning to come round to the fact that at some point people are just going to say FUCK IT, we cannot carry on like this, I’m in the fortunate position of both of us still earning but others are really going to struggle after this 3 months that the government have been furloughed.
After the crash in 2007 I said to my now wife it would be 15-20 of austerity and as a public sector worker I’ve born the brunt of that with basically a real term cut in pay of around £5k, austerity will now carry on for another 15 years. There will be a generation of workers in both public and private who are basically paying for the debt of the country for most of their working lives.
I don’t know the answer but my elderly parents have accepted lockdown and if it’s a year so be it, what will happen though is we will get tests and then go visit them properly but not before, kids are going to have to go back to school, masks and cleanliness will be the new norm and I think people will just change their habits to not come into contact with people if they don’t have to. Football isn’t coming back for a long time.

Do you really beleive the public sector 'bear the brunt' of the economic consequences? I don't see that in the slightest.

Otherwise, absolutely valid points, don't disagree with any of that.
 
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